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magicguy147
02-19-2008, 12:45 AM
hey, i need a really good birthday or just a really good magic trick. im going to perform at a birthday and iwant it to be good.the birthday is on Friday.:)

magick
02-19-2008, 12:58 AM
hey, i need a really good birthday or just a really good magic trick. im going to perform at a birthday and iwant it to be good.the birthday is on Friday.:)

you dont start learning a new trick for a show 4 days away...if you want it to be good then do something that you already do well. you dont have time to get new material up to speed.

reality bender
02-19-2008, 01:38 AM
you dont start learning a new trick for a show 4 days away...if you want it to be good then do something that you already do well. you dont have time to get new material up to speed. i agree but if tou can cardtoon might be good.

The Joker
02-19-2008, 01:44 AM
actuallty i can get a trick down in easily a few hours so i would suggest getting a raven X2 to switch like a shim rock with a small present

magick
02-19-2008, 01:48 AM
actuallty i can get a trick down in easily a few hours so i would suggest getting a raven X2 to switch like a shim rock with a small present

you cant get ANY of the material i do down...and performance ready, in a few hours....

The Joker
02-19-2008, 01:55 AM
well i currently am doing street magic so its not that the tricks i do are lame but i dont do a lot of very large tricks that require props i cant take with me

magick
02-19-2008, 02:07 AM
well i currently am not doing street magic so its not that the tricks i do are lame but i dont do a lot of very large tricks that require props i cant take with me

you don't do close-up...and you dont do large scale stuff?

so...what do you do?

seymourmagic
02-19-2008, 02:08 AM
you don't do close-up...and you dont do large scale stuff?

so...what do you do?



Good question!

The Joker
02-19-2008, 02:57 AM
sorry i meant i do only street magic i edited it

magick
02-19-2008, 03:01 AM
sorry i meant i do only street magic i edited it

good close-up magic still requires alot of practice... you may be ready to show somthing to a good buddy in a few hours... but a public performance requires a lot more than that.

The Joker
02-19-2008, 03:11 AM
not for me i recently did some gaff tricks a few hours after i got the deck and army of 52 for complete strangers at walmart

magick
02-19-2008, 03:16 AM
not for me i recently did some gaff tricks a few hours after i got the deck and army of 52 for complete strangers at walmart

i said GOOD magic...you know...professional.

that is elusionist...little kid crap.

most of that stuff is just a bunch of color changes... switching one card for another... and most of it requires little or no presentation....

you're just doing tricks...i'm talking about magic.

The Joker
02-19-2008, 03:20 AM
actually that si good magic just because it came from ellusionist doesnt meen anything its still difficult to pull off those tricks to complete strangers and i did do it well it was actually very good i mean i can say that all gaff deck tricks are good but a lot are like colt 45 pip switch or pip matrix or stranger card are pro quality tricks and they were perfprmed well i do work on my magic i just maye dont have to work on it as much as u do

magick
02-19-2008, 03:29 AM
actually that si good magic just because it came from ellusionist doesnt meen anything its still difficult to pull off those tricks to complete strangers and i did do it well it was actually very good i mean i can say that all gaff deck tricks are good but a lot are like colt 45 pip switch or pip matrix or stranger card are pro quality tricks and they were perfprmed well i do work on my magic i just maye dont have to work on it as much as u do

it may be good magic to a 13 year old kid, but after you have been doing magic 30 years like i have....well, its not much.

as for pip matrix....its based on a trick that came out 20 years ago called holey terror, where a spectator signed a card then 4 holes were punched...then the holes moved. and the spectator goes home with the signed card.

pip matrix= easy beginner magic, minimal sleight of hand

holey terror= by professionals...for professionals, heavy sleight of hand

i been doing holey terror for many years. and i still run into people who say "i have my card at home" you can't get that with gaff deck

justin miller is in the army of 52 video, but do you really think he does any of that material in his public performances?

you practice less because the magic you do is so much easier than the magic i do...either that, or being good is just more inportant to me than it is to you.

reality bender
02-19-2008, 04:22 AM
holy terror...sounds cool. is it still in some form of production some where? god that would blow some peoples minds lol. i would really like to know how to do that, if you know of anywhere that i could find i please let me know.

magick
02-19-2008, 04:28 AM
holy terror...sounds cool. is it still in some form of production some where? god that would blow some peoples minds lol. i would really like to know how to do that, if you know of anywhere that i could find i please let me know.

give me a few days to go thru my stuff. i'll scan in the instructions and send them to you. pm me an email address.

StonerNick420
02-19-2008, 05:41 AM
oley terror=justin miller is in the army of 52 video, but do you really think he does any of that material in his public performances?

rite. i have evry vid from e minus the Tattoo thing. and wut i think is funni is that he says in the factory sealed vid that he actualy preforms this trick in his show/act.
i found a vid on line sumtime after watching the dvd and it was an out take from the putting together of the shots for the final factory sealed dvd. he said this the trick was a joke.
and its true the idea of the refraction princapel has been around for a lo0ong time.

VOID
02-19-2008, 08:32 PM
There is no such thing as a magic trick that will instantly shock people the moment you pull it out of the box.

You must master the trick before anything sparks. It's like asking, "I need some new tires for my car which hasn't been driven in 10 years."

The Joker
02-19-2008, 11:02 PM
dude i have holey terror but i dont have more and more money to keep buying cards because i actually am 13 and i cant get a job until next year so i prefer moving pips so i can do it over and over again it may not be as memorable but i do some jobs and that is one of the few times i get money but i dont usually ask for pay so actually i am a good magician i just catch on to card tricks really well adn the best way i have found to improve for me is to get the trick down(which only takes a few hours) then the persormances with real people make it better because u know what people are likely to do and how they will reaact or what u need to work on and that is how u truly get better

cheaptrick
02-19-2008, 11:11 PM
dude i have holey terror but i dont have more and more money to keep buying cards because i actually am 13 and i cant get a job until next year so i prefer moving pips so i can do it over and over again it may not be as memorable but i do some jobs and that is one of the few times i get money but i dont usually ask for pay so actually i am a good magician i just catch on to card tricks really well adn the best way i have found to improve for me is to get the trick down(which only takes a few hours) then the persormances with real people make it better because u know what people are likely to do and how they will reaact or what u need to work on and that is how u truly get better

could you send me holey terror? I have never seen it, and it sounds awesome

The Joker
02-19-2008, 11:21 PM
srry i dont have it anymore i dont rememebr how to do it and my brother destroyed the instructions

magick
02-19-2008, 11:41 PM
srry i dont have it anymore i dont rememebr how to do it and my brother destroyed the instructions

sounds like " my dog ate my homework" to me.

magick
02-20-2008, 12:10 AM
dude i have holey terror but i dont have more and more money to keep buying cards because i actually am 13 and i cant get a job until next year so i prefer moving pips so i can do it over and over again it may not be as memorable but i do some jobs and that is one of the few times i get money but i dont usually ask for pay so actually i am a good magician i just catch on to card tricks really well adn the best way i have found to improve for me is to get the trick down(which only takes a few hours) then the persormances with real people make it better because u know what people are likely to do and how they will reaact or what u need to work on and that is how u truly get better

you never owned holey terror....

a couple weeks ago you started a post called "pip matrix" where you asked how to do the effect... if you had owned holey terror...you would know how to do it. pip matrix is based on the older effect and the handling for the matrix part is almost the same...

if you knew holey terror...pip matrix should have been easy...you would have already known it.

im trying to use my 25 years as a paid professional to help you be a better magician and you are just feeding me and everyone else full of shit.

oh, by the way, i have heard many pros at lectures say ( including jeff mcbride, eugene burger and ricky jay) that they reherse a trick at least a month before they show it to anyone...a big part of that is the fact that the magic they do is much more complicated than what you can do.

that's the kind of work that makes you a magician and not just an amature with a trick deck.

Dummyisdumb
02-20-2008, 12:17 AM
you never owned holey terror.... you little liar.

a couple weeks ago you started a post called "pip matrix" where you asked how to do the effect... if you had owned holey terror...you would know how to do it. pip matrix is based on the older effect and the handling for the matrix part is almost the same...

if you knew holey terror...pip matrix should have been easy...you would have already known it.

im trying to use my 25 years as a paid professional to help you be a better magician and you are just feeding me and everyone else full of shit.

oh, by the way, i have heard many pros say at lectures ( including jeff mcbride, eugene burger and ricky jay) that they reherse a trick at least a month before they show it to anyone...a big part of that is the fact that the magic they do is much more complicated than what you can do.

that's the kind of work that makes you a magician and not an amature with a trick deck.

Mind if you could put a demo video of holey terror?

It sounds interesting, but, really, can't it just be done the same way as pip matrix? Cept with four different cards with mis-matched diamonds, it's done w/ four cards with different hole placements?

magick
02-20-2008, 12:25 AM
Mind if you could put a demo video of holey terror?

It sounds interesting, but, really, can't it just be done the same way as pip matrix? Cept with four different cards with mis-matched diamonds, it's done w/ four cards with different hole placements?

that part is almost exactly the same, but you are droping 2 cards each time and not just one...

in the begining a card is selected and signed... then holes are punched in the corners...then holes move (similar to pip matrix) then the signed card is given away with the holes in the new location. left in its altered state.