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DeanDill
06-28-2008, 10:49 PM
Hey,
Please stop uploading magic dvd's. Earlier last week at a magic convention in Florida, me, Daniel Garcia, Dan Harlan, Jay Noblezada, and many more professional magicians discussed sites that are revealing magic. We've decided it's time to crackdown on these sites, and will do whatever it takes to stop magic being revealed. Not only are you ruining magicians lives, but you are ruining magic itself. We are trying to think of alternative ways around uploading and downloading. For example one of the suggestions made was to have a monthly competition where you can win magic material. I will be contacting the site administrator shortly, until then please stop uploading.

Thank you,
Dean Dill -IMC

darkace
06-28-2008, 10:56 PM
So true Dean.

Random Hero
06-28-2008, 11:33 PM
who the hel is Dean Dill never heard of him

jordan79
06-29-2008, 02:29 AM
Hey,
Please stop uploading magic dvd's. Earlier last week at a magic convention in Florida, me, Daniel Garcia, Dan Harlan, Jay Noblezada, and many more professional magicians discussed sites that are revealing magic. We've decided it's time to crackdown on these sites, and will do whatever it takes to stop magic being revealed. Not only are you ruining magicians lives, but you are ruining magic itself. We are trying to think of alternative ways around uploading and downloading. For example one of the suggestions made was to have a monthly competition where you can win magic material. I will be contacting the site administrator shortly, until then please stop uploading.

Thank you,
Dean Dill -IMC

ok i sorta agree bu t wen u say (in red) i dissagree i mean we are magicians to but i myself am poor and i dont have the money and i bet you can ask any magician on here that its not ruining there lives i think you should not boither with this site and worry anout the worse one live well i don wana say cuz then everyone whos on there will b pissed at me but pls hear me out

and u say ruining magic itself that is verrry rude ok magic is about intertaining and learning and hepling other magicians out not about money and greed and things like that

now i understand that u have worked your self out getting videos out there and things but u gota see where im coming from i mean i think that we all do are fare share of helping and receving and its just greedy if u only want money and have no intention in helping out ppl who dont have the money

im sorry if this is confusing im just tryin to get my thots out but will you please just see whare im coming from

thank you,
jordan79

stanhimself
06-29-2008, 02:33 AM
Whatever lol, Guys if you look at all those people like brad christian, daniel garcia etc etc, all there usernames are like DanielGarcia, with 2 capitals, whats the chances of that happening unless its the same person lol

The Joker
06-29-2008, 02:56 AM
well i agree with jordan i am too poor to buy dvds and too young for a job

stanhimself
06-29-2008, 02:57 AM
Poor? job?

Its called go and perform magic! Get paid! I do sometimes, and then you can pay

jordan79
06-29-2008, 03:00 AM
Poor? job?

Its called go and perform magic! Get paid! I do sometimes, and then you can paybut u cant perform unless u learn and you cant learn unless you perform!!

illusionist14
06-29-2008, 03:34 AM
Jordan, what your saying doesn't hold up. When I was your age I didn't have

a job or the internet. I did it the old fashioned way, I went to the library and

loaned out books on magic. You would be amazed what some libraries have on the shelves. Not to mention, there is so many untapped resources on the

internet about magic. There is no reason to have to buy DVD's. If you don't

have the money for them, then you shouldn't download them. I really don't

care what you do. I'm just telling you how the people that sell this material

feel. You wouldn't go into a magic shop and steal the DVD's off the shelf,

would you. It's the same as stealing no matter how you look at it. I will

admit to doing it, we all can. But, I also realize that there are consequences

to doing it. You can be slapped with a fine, or possibly even go to jail.

There are other ways legally to get a hold of these secrets. Network with

other magicians, libraries, legal internet sites with small fees, the fees should

be paid for royalty's if it's a legit site and the best of all, make your own

tricks.


You have a good point there.

traumatised-magic
06-29-2008, 04:08 AM
weather this is true or not remains to b seen. but why does dave castle have anythin to worry about if he kept it how he started to have it with no piracy they wouldnt have a leg to stand on legally. yes its morally wrong but there are far more worse sites out there than this one. there is hardly any piracy on here....i for one am all for gettin rid of it and just keepin home made videos. yes its basically the same kind of thing...the creators are still loosein out cause people arent buyin their dvds but at the end of the day there is nothin legally wrong with it just morally wrong and there is absolutly nothin dan harlan or daniel garcia can do about it.

if they really wanna shut donw magic piracy sites and such its gonna take a shit load fo money and a shit load of time....if people want it bad enough there will always be a site for them to get what they want.

just cause they shut down LMT another 10 sites will b made to replace it thats how it works, there really is nothin they can do to stop it no matter how much they want it they cant stop it

and LMT is small fish compared to most sites online this is juts stupid an will no doubt die out after a few weeks

ngo.
06-29-2008, 04:09 AM
but DJC is gay so this site should be shut down

gigacurd
06-29-2008, 04:12 AM
lol who the hell is dean dill

jordan79
06-29-2008, 04:30 AM
but DJC is gay so this site should be shut down

fuk you ass hole

magick
06-29-2008, 04:31 AM
lol who the hell is dean dill

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magick
06-29-2008, 04:37 AM
dean's california based and always has been

magicguy147
06-29-2008, 04:40 AM
all these "pros"need to stop pretending if ur really "dean dill" show a pic with a piece of paper saying u have an account on LMT

AznIllusion
06-29-2008, 05:58 AM
I agree with Jordan too... I'm to poor to afford anything really... And plus, if i ask to buy some magic kind of material my parents get mad and say no because they think its a waste of money (imo, it sorta is... like... 30 bucks for one trick? wtf?)

Magic Orthodoxy
06-29-2008, 05:59 AM
...this is why you guys need to get out more, you don't know who Dean Dill is? Daryl? Michael Ammar? Kenton Knepper? David Eldridge? David Regal? Jim Pace? Gregory Wilson? John Bannon? Scott F Guinn? Bob Solari? Paul Green?

Reed McLintock, Michael Close, Andrew Mayne, Steve Fearson, Docc Hilford, David Forrest, Terry LaGerould, Tim Trono, Ben Harris, Boris Wild, Bill Malone, Banacheck, Paul Cummins....

oh yea... Lee Asher, Guy Hollingworth, Milbourne Christopher, Whit Hayden, Aldo Columbini, Audrey Walsh and John Lovick

?????

AznIllusion
06-29-2008, 06:01 AM
...this is why you guys need to get out more, you don't know who Dean Dill is? Daryl? Michael Ammar? Kenton Knepper? David Eldridge? David Regal? Jim Pace? Gregory Wilson? John Bannon? Scott F Guinn? Bob Solari? Paul Green?

Reed McLintock, Michael Close, Andrew Mayne, Steve Fearson, Docc Hilford, David Forrest, Terry LaGerould, Tim Trono, Ben Harris, Boris Wild, Bill Malone, Banacheck, Paul Cummins....

?????

You sure know your stuff. I only know half of the people your talking about right there:eek:

gigacurd
06-29-2008, 06:20 AM
so u are justfying piracy which is illegal becuz u are too "poor" to buy tricks. what a joke. It's fine to me if u do it but just dont use stupid excuses. I'm not poor. I do it becuz its more convenent and FREE. What we do is totally wrong.

stanhimself
06-29-2008, 06:24 AM
so u are justfying piracy which is illegal becuz u are too "poor" to buy tricks. what a joke. It's fine to me if u do it but just dont use stupid excuses. I'm not poor. I do it becuz its more convenent and FREE. What we do is totally wrong.

Yeah exactly...

I do it because it cost heaps to get shipped over, i was looking at panic and to buy it and get shipped it was guna be like 90buks, and all i needed was the gimmick!

Magic Orthodoxy
06-29-2008, 06:28 AM
What we do is totally wrong.

AMEN! Quit using poor as an excuse. When I was a kid I did tons of magic, your problem is you have a computer and you know what is out there, it's like riding your bike when you have a driver's license. Just because you can't afford a car, doesn't mean you get to steal one.

stanhimself
06-29-2008, 06:33 AM
AMEN! Quit using poor as an excuse. When I was a kid I did tons of magic, your problem is you have a computer and you know what is out there, it's like riding your bike when you have a driver's license. Just because you can't afford a car, doesn't mean you get to steal one.



Haha! So tru!

jordan79
06-29-2008, 07:08 AM
whatever i seriously am poor well im more in the widdle class almost but my parents dont pay atetion to stuff that i want its all them and there dam bikes but i only get to order 3 times a year once in the summer once on my b day and once on christmas other than that my parents couldnot give a rats ass but idc wat yall say

gigacurd
06-29-2008, 07:10 AM
middle class is NOT poor. How do you have a computer? Seriously when you say poor, you make me imagine a half assed 2 room apartment with only a few pairs of clothes and no electronic, god forbid a car as well. You download piracy becuz it is easy and in your access.

traumatised-magic
06-29-2008, 12:18 PM
No offense, your not poor, your just being cheap. Why buy a cow when the milk is free.

slightly off topic but that last bit made absolutly no sense. i have to buy a cow first to have its milk for free wouldnt i or else i'm goin to have to buy milk from a shop

Opeth
06-29-2008, 12:50 PM
This is lame.. Mr. Fat Garcia.. go to hell:)

kcmoskater
06-29-2008, 04:45 PM
slightly off topic but that last bit made absolutly no sense. i have to buy a cow first to have its milk for free wouldnt i or else i'm goin to have to buy milk from a shop

that hilarious, i was like wtf that doesnt make any sense, milks not free and either is a cow, find a new saying Eshel5254. haha why buy a cow when milk is free that made my day man.