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stanhimself
06-29-2008, 07:05 AM
I was watching the preview before and found a few things...

I think change may be involved.... Do you think that aswell??

and if you watch close on 48secs he steals it into tenkai...

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If you have some ideas care to share

Jani
06-29-2008, 09:40 AM
I think change may be involved.... Do you think that aswell??

and if you watch close on 48secs he steals it into tenkai...

I think that he uses the change, but the last one at 48 secs is modified snap change

9999
06-29-2008, 11:15 AM
Damn this looks so cool, i want it

CoinFlip
06-29-2008, 01:36 PM
isn't burn in identity? or is that another trick involving fire..

anyway. if this vid does use change he wouldn't reveal it in this thing. that basically kills the whole thing about change. but yes that would be interesting if it does.

kostis12345
06-29-2008, 02:17 PM
Is there a way to buy burn ?

CoinFlip
06-29-2008, 02:41 PM
Is there a way to buy burn ?

ya.. you can buy it on dms site: danielmadison.co.uk...

its ilke 19 american dollars

Altai
06-29-2008, 03:15 PM
He won't teach change in this. I think I'm the only person to read this... lol

AS THIS IS A STUDIO TRAILER NOT ALL OF THE EFFECTS FROM BURN COULD BE PERFORMED DURING THE 'SHOWMAN' SHOOT AND THEREFORE ONLY TWO OF THE CONCEPTS WERE EXPLORED IN THE VIDEO. THE VIDEO CONTAINS 'ACHIEVABLE' EFFECTS FROM BURN, THE EFFECTS MAY NOT APPEAR TO PLAY OUT EXACTLY THE SAME AS THEY WERE PERFORMED DIFFERENTLY FOR THE CAMERA AND NOT IN A LIVE SITUATION, AS THEY ARE DESIGNED TO DO SO IN THE BOOK. THE BOOK COVERS METHODS BEST PERFORMED FOR AUDIENCES AND NOT CAMERA.

WE ACCIDENTALLY SET FIRE TO R3MAN DURING THE VIDEO SHOOT BUT THANKFULLY HE'S FIREPROOF SO HE'S OKAY

I didn't meant to caps it. Thats just how it was.

redefinedmagic
06-29-2008, 03:30 PM
WE ACCIDENTALLY SET FIRE TO R3MAN DURING THE VIDEO SHOOT BUT THANKFULLY HE'S FIREPROOF SO HE'S OKAY

lol:D :D (short)

kcmoskater
06-29-2008, 04:30 PM
He won't teach change in this. I think I'm the only person to read this... lol

AS THIS IS A STUDIO TRAILER NOT ALL OF THE EFFECTS FROM BURN COULD BE PERFORMED DURING THE 'SHOWMAN' SHOOT AND THEREFORE ONLY TWO OF THE CONCEPTS WERE EXPLORED IN THE VIDEO. THE VIDEO CONTAINS 'ACHIEVABLE' EFFECTS FROM BURN, THE EFFECTS MAY NOT APPEAR TO PLAY OUT EXACTLY THE SAME AS THEY WERE PERFORMED DIFFERENTLY FOR THE CAMERA AND NOT IN A LIVE SITUATION, AS THEY ARE DESIGNED TO DO SO IN THE BOOK. THE BOOK COVERS METHODS BEST PERFORMED FOR AUDIENCES AND NOT CAMERA.

WE ACCIDENTALLY SET FIRE TO R3MAN DURING THE VIDEO SHOOT BUT THANKFULLY HE'S FIREPROOF SO HE'S OKAY

I didn't meant to caps it. Thats just how it was.

i read it too and i dont think he will even teach change. not even in his new dvd thats suppose to be called change which i hear is a dvd that teaches you a couple of good color changes... but to me change is overrated, i think a spectator will have the same reaction to Change as to any other color change. Change just fools magicians and if he releases it then everyone will know how its done so theres no point.

9999
06-29-2008, 05:52 PM
Yea let it be any change, spectators are gonna react the same...(if the change is visual)

darkace
06-29-2008, 05:52 PM
Change is probably going to have it's own DVD in 2009.

The Joker
06-29-2008, 06:10 PM
actually i would still like to have the change personally because by the looks of it it doesnt really have any clean up like most changes

100
06-29-2008, 06:53 PM
Since you guys(except tram) have never performed for real people you would'nt know that they react differently to different color changes. When I showed a few of my non magic friends change they couldn't believe it. They thought it was a camera trick. If I show it to them live they would go crazy.

kcmoskater
06-29-2008, 06:55 PM
Since you guys(except tram) have never performed for real people you would'nt know that they react differently to different color changes. When I showed a few of my non magic friends change they couldn't believe it. They thought it was a camera trick. If I show it to them live they would go crazy.

its not the effect... its how you preform it. atleast thats my opinion.

traumatised-magic
06-29-2008, 06:59 PM
Since you guys(except tram) have never performed for real people you would'nt know that they react differently to different color changes. When I showed a few of my non magic friends change they couldn't believe it. They thought it was a camera trick. If I show it to them live they would go crazy.

only if it is truly as real as DM says it is......so far its just all hype and a few seemingly camera edited videos. we'll see tho. its somthin i'm lookin forward to thats for sure

back on topic tho......no i dont think change is shown in any of performances of burn all he is doin is a modified snap change thats it

it looks good tho. i will b gettin this for sure

Altai
06-29-2008, 10:37 PM
Since you guys(except tram) have never performed for real people you would'nt know that they react differently to different color changes. When I showed a few of my non magic friends change they couldn't believe it. They thought it was a camera trick. If I show it to them live they would go crazy.

Actually I perform for real people very often. I have had people come to my house at eleven at night with a group of people just because they want to see what new tricks I have... lol.

But Change is amazing just for the fact that there are no funny movements (that I can see) and it seems damn near IMPOSSIBLE to figure this out. I mean, with most other changes, you hold the card in an akward positioning, you cover it, etc...

templiar
06-30-2008, 12:01 AM
CHANGE:hold the card like in the beggining of burn trailer, create a small break between the two cards shoot one in to gamblers cop, the hand thts holdin the lighter. just how i think change is done.

Daniel Madison
06-30-2008, 12:15 AM
CHANGE:hold the card like in the beggining of burn trailer, create a small break between the two cards shoot one in to gamblers cop, the hand thts holdin the lighter. just how i think change is done.

That is not it, I will be contacting this sites administrator if you don't stop revealing tricks

CoinFlip
06-30-2008, 12:47 AM
CHANGE:hold the card like in the beggining of burn trailer, create a small break between the two cards shoot one in to gamblers cop, the hand thts holdin the lighter. just how i think change is done.

how would you put it into gamblers cop? and

That is not it, I will be contacting this sites administrator if you don't stop revealing tricks

oh and you would obviously tell us it was correct if it was correct...

templiar
06-30-2008, 12:49 AM
That is not it, I will be contacting this sites administrator if you don't stop revealing tricks

i wrote just my idea, so i dont know wht the actual method is, i just wanted to tell my ideas. If this is the actual d+M im terribly sorry.

CoinFlip
06-30-2008, 12:59 AM
i wrote just my idea, so i dont know wht the actual method is, i just wanted to tell my ideas. If this is the actual d+M im terribly sorry.

ya but how would you put the card into gamblers cop in the first place?

templiar
06-30-2008, 01:06 AM
ya but how would you put the card into gamblers cop in the first place?
im not sure how to explain it but i think madison has some stuff on the market the explains the gamblers cop in full detail. Its very hard to explain but u like hide the card using the pinkie and ring finger

Altai
06-30-2008, 02:52 AM
That is not it, I will be contacting this sites administrator if you don't stop revealing tricks

Listen, You can only copyright your material, which would be the PDF. It is perfectly legal for someone to explain how its done for the fact that its the trick, not the method, (which he was giving his version of it, not yours) that is copywrighted.

He is free to guess as much as he wants, and if he finds out how its done then he can tell people in HIS words how it is done. Its like, the biddle trick for example, people tell everyone else how its done, in their words and no one has a problem with that, its word of mouth and is completely legal. But if it was your material, then I agree that it shouldn't be put out, but since that is not the case chill out. Besides, not like getting ONE part of it down would allow him to do it. you still need the prep, how to make the gimmick, the setup for it, the slieghts and such.

I just noticed he was banned... lol

stanhimself
07-07-2008, 11:03 AM
Gamblers cop lol, right.... Thats in like every trick on mystique