help!!!

[magicm.]

Today I got my classic raven, but there`s a big problem.....
There is only explained how to attach the raven on a chemise...but I wanna use the raven with a zipper or a normal t-shirt....but they don`t explain how to fix it on a normal t-shirt or zipper......

Any Help would be great!!!!

[jimbo mcgee]

for a normal t-shirt (well use an unbuttoned button up shirt with an undershirt), attach the main safety pin to your undershirt where your back is, then the stopper close to where the edge of your button up shirt is. it takes a bit of playin around to find the right spot
i recommend wearing a black shirt for this. but i really recommend doing this with a zip up hoodie. not a t-shirt.

[magicm.]

yea...i wanna do it with a zip up hoodie...does it look like this:

You wear a t-shirt an at the back of your shirt you fixed the end of the elastic band....near your bellybutton you fix the stopper.....then you clad the zipper...is this the right way?

DO you offen use your raven?

Do you recommend buying the raven dvd??

[jimbo mcgee]

with a hoodie i attach it to the actual hoodie on the inside. the raven DVD is a good purchase if you plan on using it alot. if u just wanna do a basic vanish/change, don't buy it. its really something you have to play with to get the positioning right. some ppl want it really tight and some want it loose. it all depends on how you use it.

[magicm.]

when you perform the raven...the raven actually goes right inside the hoddie....
do you have the dvd?because i wanna know if they explain the place of the raven again?!