2 by Gianni

[Dontavius Roivas]

I saw this on Daniel Madisons youtube page which he added around 3 hours ago and watched this.I think this is a great effect and I have "a way" of doing it, I will tell after you watch.
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Okay how I would do it would be this way: Instead of the spectator picking 2 cards from the floor they would have to pick up 1, the other way for the spectator to pick up 2 cards is a way Im going to perfect but this is how you do it with one card.
lets use the 2 for this. Have a 2 in a gamblors cop by your side and have another 2 in your hand, then just have the spectator pick up any FACE DOWN card and when they hand it to you, you bring up the coped card underneath the spectators card, then reveal.
What do you think?

[BlindDodo]

I saw this on Daniel Madisons youtube page which he added around 3 hours ago and watched this.I think this is a great effect and I have "a way" of doing it, I will tell after you watch.
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Okay how I would do it would be this way: Instead of the spectator picking 2 cards from the floor they would have to pick up 1, the other way for the spectator to pick up 2 cards is a way Im going to perfect but this is how you do it with one card.
lets use the 2 for this. Have a 2 in a gamblors cop by your side and have another 2 in your hand, then just have the spectator pick up any FACE DOWN card and when they hand it to you, you bring up the coped card underneath the spectators card, then reveal.
What do you think?

OMG i absolutely love that. Awesome trick.

As for your way of doing it... meh. Yours is just a force like any other. The whole point of this is that you dont touch the cards and the spectator picks two. You've got rid of both of these aspects so yours might as well be any old force...

But an awesome trick.

[Dontavius Roivas]

OMG i absolutely love that. Awesome trick.

As for your way of doing it... meh. Yours is just a force like any other. The whole point of this is that you dont touch the cards and the spectator picks two. You've got rid of both of these aspects so yours might as well be any old force...

But an awesome trick.

Well the way I just said was just a quick thought, I saw the video once and then right after I thought to myself " hey you could have the same effect if you do it this way" Also above like I said I have a way of doing it with 2 cards such as the way Gianna does it but I really dont want to reveal it. I said the first way for people who just want to run out and try the closest thing to the trick and try it on others. And you cant just really say its no force. There has to be a "force", im sure it isnt real magic.

[BlindDodo]

Well the way I just said was just a quick thought, I saw the video once and then right after I thought to myself " hey you could have the same effect if you do it this way" Also above like I said I have a way of doing it with 2 cards such as the way Gianna does it but I really dont want to reveal it. I said the first way for people who just want to run out and try the closest thing to the trick and try it on others. And you cant just really say its no force. There has to be a "force", im sure it isnt real magic.

Yeh fair enough. Wow a method like his? that's pretty darn impressive...

Yeh obviously there has to be a force. What I mean is that it must be a new and unconventional one.
You could almost do it with a positional force... 2 out of 2 is pretty unlikely though...

[Dontavius Roivas]

Yeh fair enough. Wow a method like his? that's pretty darn impressive...

Yeh obviously there has to be a force. What I mean is that it must be a new and unconventional one.
You could almost do it with a positional force... 2 out of 2 is pretty unlikely though...

It is pretty unlikely, I think its pretty funny at 2:01 you hear Daniel Madison saying " How the fuck do you do that"

[stevethemagicguy]

of course you would be the one to check D+M youtube jk sorry had to anyway yeah i like it alot if it is ever for sale id buy it

[CoinFlip]

Yeh fair enough. Wow a method like his? that's pretty darn impressive...

Yeh obviously there has to be a force. What I mean is that it must be a new and unconventional one.
You could almost do it with a positional force... 2 out of 2 is pretty unlikely though...

It's not pretty unlikely. It is EXTREMELY unlikely.

Think 3 decks. 1/72 for each one if I'm not mistaken. That's

1/72 * 1/71.... Pretty low chances don't you think? Now I believe that being face down would either increase or decrease the odds but not become high enough to actually do this 100% if it's just by chance.

Of course it's not by chance.. At least I doubt it but it could be a set up. You never know. Like the cards were marked somehow so when Madison walked over he knew exactly which ones to pick to make it look real.

[Dontavius Roivas]

of course you would be the one to check D+M youtube jk sorry had to anyway yeah i like it alot if it is ever for sale id buy it

Well it looked like 251 people saw the video before I did, therefore Im not the only person to look at Daniel Madison stuff. I know you said "jk" but I get the hint.

[ntroberts]

When he said "any two" did he mean "any two of the same" or "any two different" cards? On the former, it's too easy to do but also ridiculously stupid. On the latter, it's brain frying. What I don't understand though is why did d+m get a pair if Gianni meant the latter? Trying to lower the chances of him getting a lucky guess?

[CoinFlip]

When he said "any two" did he mean "any two of the same" or "any two different" cards? On the former, it's too easy to do but also ridiculously stupid. On the latter, it's brain frying. What I don't understand though is why did d+m get a pair if Gianni meant the latter? Trying to lower the chances of him getting a lucky guess?

I'm sorry but that post made almost no sense to me xD.

[magic 1]

When he said "any two" did he mean "any two of the same" or "any two different" cards? On the former, it's too easy to do but also ridiculously stupid. On the latter, it's brain frying. What I don't understand though is why did d+m get a pair if Gianni meant the latter? Trying to lower the chances of him getting a lucky guess?
he said pick 2 facedown cards...D+M had (probably) no idea what he was picking up

[CoinFlip]

When he said "any two" did he mean "any two of the same" or "any two different" cards? On the former, it's too easy to do but also ridiculously stupid. On the latter, it's brain frying. What I don't understand though is why did d+m get a pair if Gianni meant the latter? Trying to lower the chances of him getting a lucky guess?

Ok I get it now.. But isn't hat the point? Anyways Madison only chose 2 cards as far as I could see.. So there's no real way that he could've said... hmm let me go look for the other 2 of diamonds. He just picked up 2 cards and that was it...

So really the only real method I think think of is that it's a set up from the start, or something int he wording did something.... OR some kind of human pattern where they take the card from the back idk and he put dupes there. Not sure.

In fact.. I'm going to try this tomorrow... But really it would take quite an amount of dupes if that's the method. Notice that Madison takes from the outer layer, but only checks the inside layers. As well, he says 3 decks but doesn't specify any type (which you wouldn't naturally) so that doesn't mean there were dupes in one of the decks and because the card is pre chosen and not taken from a deck on the spot, there's something there.

Perfect isn't it? Reminds me of the puzzlement from CHANGE xD.

[ntroberts]

he said pick 2 facedown cards...D+M had (probably) no idea what he was picking up

G didn't say it had to be face down. He said "any two playing cards you want". And he can turn over the face down cards a bit to make sure there's nothing tricky with them. Later, G changes the instruction to two face down cards, but d+M CAN look at them.

Ok I get it now.. But isn't hat the point? Anyways Madison only chose 2 cards as far as I could see.. So there's no real way that he could've said... hmm let me go look for the other 2 of diamonds. He just picked up 2 cards and that was it...

So really the only real method I think think of is that it's a set up from the start, or something int he wording did something.... OR some kind of human pattern where they take the card from the back idk and he put dupes there. Not sure.

In fact.. I'm going to try this tomorrow... But really it would take quite an amount of dupes if that's the method. Notice that Madison takes from the outer layer, but only checks the inside layers. As well, he says 3 decks but doesn't specify any type (which you wouldn't naturally) so that doesn't mean there were dupes in one of the decks and because the card is pre chosen and not taken from a deck on the spot, there's something there.

Perfect isn't it? Reminds me of the puzzlement from CHANGE xD.

If he's required to, by the wording, choose a pair (two of a kind), then there's a way to force the cards. If it's a truly free two cards.... :confused:

[Dontavius Roivas]

G did say choose 2 face down cards, you hear Daniel saying "Face down?" and G replys by saying " Yeah, face down." So he had to pick 2 face down cards.
It could be set up as we said before, but I doubt it.

[Motaz]

First i was amazed, but i remembered bout first CHANGE vid and few other d+M videos. It's just a fake. i think the cards were marked and that's it. and even if this is not fake i wouldn't buy this trick.. it's completely unpractical.Think about it. you need to carry three deck and you need them to spring all over the floor. you waste 3 fu***ng decks to perform 1 trick. it's just ridiculous.

[sonny]

Lmao i couldnt tell who was daniel madison.


they both look like wannabes =) of daniel madison

[CoinFlip]

First i was amazed, but i remembered bout first CHANGE vid and few other d+M videos. It's just a fake. i think the cards were marked and that's it. and even if this is not fake i wouldn't buy this trick.. it's completely unpractical.Think about it. you need to carry three deck and you need them to spring all over the floor. you waste 3 fu***ng decks to perform 1 trick. it's just ridiculous.

CHANGE is not fake.

[Dontavius Roivas]

You know what I noticed, when G is talking to the camra in the beginning he is talking at a tone that Daniel Madison could hear him, plus the voice echoes where they're at, so Daniel could have heard him talking just fine saying " Pick the 2 of diamonds" Oh and to the person who was saying, knowing daniel madison this is just a fake, This is NOT a daniel madison trick its by a compltely differnt magician "G" so daniel madison has nothing to do with it besides being a spectator. And alssooo people who are saying the whole thing that they look like "wannbes", Daniel Madisons company The Devils Advocate, all of the members which are only 4 from what I believe they all dress and look the same, its a "style" its "The Devils Advocate" style. Just as if you worked in a office you will have to be in a white shirt and tie, its a uniform, and The Devils Advocate has a uniform and thats that.

[stevethemagicguy]

Dontavius Roivas im sorry about my above comment just after the T11 all most endless D+M post i.....anyway im sorry about that did you ever make a tut for your version of exile?

[ntroberts]

Well we'll see. If Devil's Advocate markets the trick then we'll know it wasn't a fake. Looks really cool though. If we're to stop for a moment and believe it's a real trick, it'd make for a really nice gig trick. I can imagine it really catching attention, being a "big" trick.

[BlindDodo]

It's not pretty unlikely. It is EXTREMELY unlikely.

Think 3 decks. 1/72 for each one if I'm not mistaken. That's

1/72 * 1/71.... Pretty low chances don't you think? Now I believe that being face down would either increase or decrease the odds but not become high enough to actually do this 100% if it's just by chance.

Of course it's not by chance.. At least I doubt it but it could be a set up. You never know. Like the cards were marked somehow so when Madison walked over he knew exactly which ones to pick to make it look real.

Obviously its not chance. I wasn't saying that for one minute. Read what I put. I'm saying it may be positional forcing, but that it would still be pretty unlikely. Basically the way I see it it MUST be either:
1) A fake
2) Positional and verbal forcing

Surely these are the only two options...?

And btw it's 52 cards in a deck, not 72 lol. How can you not know that? ;)

[cheaptrick]

most likely set up, several of the effects by the other magicians in the magic is dead/devils advocate crap have been obvious camera edits or set up.

[Dontavius Roivas]

most likely set up, several of the effects by the other magicians in the magic is dead/devils advocate crap have been obvious camera edits or set up.

Yeah there has been videos by them that has been edited..disappointment...

[kcmoskater]

Obviously its not chance. I wasn't saying that for one minute. Read what I put. I'm saying it may be positional forcing, but that it would still be pretty unlikely. Basically the way I see it it MUST be either:
1) A fake
2) Positional and verbal forcing

Surely these are the only two options...?

And btw it's 52 cards in a deck, not 72 lol. How can you not know that? ;)

how can you not have heard that its 3 decks, which still isnt 72 cards though...its 156 cards which makes it even more unlikely that he did it by chance so your right its edited or just a force.

[CoinFlip]

how can you not have heard that its 3 decks, which still isnt 72 cards though...its 156 cards which makes it even more unlikely that he did it by chance so your right its edited or just a force.

Hehehe. Yeh I did my math wrong somehow. I think I was thinking 24 instead of 52 o.O....