paper crane: Fall

[memagic]

http://papercraneproductions.net/fall.htm

I'm thinking invisible thread, but that seems to obvious. Any ideas to how it is done??

[buzzemann]

I´m not quite sure, but moight it be just a BLOW ?

you blow hard and wait a few seconds till the compressed Air travels to the object ( takes a while for such a big distance ) then say fall..

or turn around and say fall..

my opinion, don´t know the Method exactly, but it reminds me to the old travelling cigarette, where you also blow and it takes a while ( depending to distance ) until it moves...

[memagic]

I don't know, the other objects did not fall. Your back can be turned. I thought it could be a simple blow but I do not think that's what it is.

[MagicMaddy]

I think this is an amazing trick. Can't wait till someone reveales it :PI´m not quite sure, but moight it be just a BLOW ?

you blow hard and wait a few seconds till the compressed Air travels to the object ( takes a while for such a big distance ) then say fall..

or turn around and say fall..

my opinion, don´t know the Method exactly, but it reminds me to the old travelling cigarette, where you also blow and it takes a while ( depending to distance ) until it moves...
Blowing? Okay maybe but I think that would be to obvious. Good guess.

[buzzemann]

yeah... but its filmed, also not visible in 3D, its not viewable how the non falling objects are positioned ( and if they are somehow prepared )...in a line of, for example, 3 standing pens, there could be 2 with a heavier back and one that is light, so only the lightweighted would be manipulated by a blow... and, I had another thought: 29,95 would be too cheap for something with invisible thread or an even more complicated gimmick...

i just blew on a pen that was standing 2m50 ( 8-9 ft ) away, between 2 other pens, and it fell... i even would have had enough time to turn my head...
nevertheless: thats just speculation...

Maybe anotherone knows the secret :)

[MagicMaddy]

yeah... but its filmed, also not visible in 3D, its not viewable how the non falling objects are positioned ( and if they are somehow prepared )...in a line of, for example, 3 standing pens, there could be 2 with a heavier back and one that is light, so only the lightweighted would be manipulated by a blow... and, I had another thought: 29,95 would be too cheap for something with invisible thread or an even more complicated gimmick...

i just blew on a pen that was standing 2m50 ( 8-9 ft ) away, between 2 other pens, and it fell... i even would have had enough time to turn my head...
nevertheless: thats just speculation...

Maybe anotherone knows the secret :) I too have been playing around with what you said. and with some success. It's just hard to make one fall without the other.

[magic123]

looks nice... can't wait for the reveal.

[papercrane]

Hi this is Shaun the owner of papercraneproductions.net I understand your desire to know this effect I can tell you that it is not blowing. I can also tell you that Matt Sconce the creator of the effect is a very nice and creative person the effect is not even released yet and people are calling for a reveal. I know I cannot stop exposure but at least be decent enough to let the guy make some money off the effect first before you expose it. I will be happy to help anybody if they ask and I encourage you guys to create and experience what its like to releas something to the community, I think you wll have a different perspective about exposure for free. We have sick ideas coming out and exposure really cuts back in the amount of sales that we have which hurts our ability to release killer new material. If you watch our demos you can tell they are not cheap to produce.

[MattSconce]

Hey guys,
This is Matt Sconce the creator of Power Word: Fall.

First of all, I appreciate the interest in my effect here on the forums. It is a powerful effect and a fun one to perform.

Now for what I came to say. I am a new father of an 8 month old baby girl, Makenzie Sconce, and am struggling as many people are to pay the bills and keep a family afloat.

I have spent a LOT of time making this effect take shape and creating the In Depth DVD to teach it so people can have the joy of performing it and getting great reactions. I worked with Paper Crane to get the price down so it would be affordable for people who could not afford expensive effects.

What I hoped was that I could create something that would help magicians and help my family get by at the same time.

In attempting to expose the effect so you do not have to buy the DVD, you are taking food from the mouth of my Daughter. You are stealing from me the same as if you were taking money from my pocket.

The price of the effect is low, and the quality is high. I would appreciate that if you love the effect, you would buy the DVD and help me feed my family.

For 29.95, you are able to do the following effects and feel good about yourselves as you will:
A. Not be stealing an idea.
B. Be helping a guy who is struggling to feed his family and pay his bills.
C. Get an amazing effect you can use to amaze and astound.

Here are the many things Power Word: Fall will let you do.

1. Power Word: Fall allows you to make single cards or pens fall, or lines or walls of pens.

2. You can set an object in front of a line of target objects and still make them fall without touching the first object.

3. You can cause the back object in a line of objects to be the only one to fall.

4. You can cause the middle objects to fall and not the first or last.

5. You can make a stack of cards fall through an arch of pens without the arch falling.

6. You can cause a ping pong ball to fall off of an object without impacting the object it was resting on.

7. You can cause objects to fall with your back turned. Even with a spectator holding each hand.


The objects fall on command, and are immediately examinable, as are you.



If you want to do the effect. please buy the DVD. Help we creators of magic to be able to keep creating good products. The more our bottom line is cut by exposure, the less ability we have to make good magic. And for a new struggling dad like me, it makes me very sad.
Thanks guys, I appreciate it.
-Matt Sconce

[buzzemann]

I don´t know what you guys have a problem with: as both of you said, this trick is awaited from some people that have seen the preview, and its not available yet... what is your problem if we speculate about the effect ( an effect that is not available yet... so it is , when you take it serious, not a reveal, because its not even available: how can you reveal something that is not yet available ) ? if it is not just blowing ( as you know from childrens experiments, a lit candle can be blown out when it is standing behind a bottle, as the air travels around the bottles sides and then collects on the other side... )... If it´s not just a blow, why shouldn´t we in this board, develop our own method by talking about it ?

around 30 Bucks really is cheap, if it´s a good effect, but if its just a blow, ( and from the preview it might be one as I stated before... and finding that out so easily makes a trick not worth the money ) then it is a rip off of customers ( reminds me to a certain card bend, that is just a spit and so also a rip off )... and if its worth the money and no blow, it shouldn´t be a problem for you, when we talk about it...

everybody here has to pay his invoices and to feed his family, and so we might just talk about this trick ( here ist the general magic discussion ) and develop maybe an alternative that works for us, before spending money on a trick we wouldn´t need to buy if it is not worth it... it could even help you as an addition to the effect if we found new ways to make an effect that is equal.

for me, blowing works fine... with a little practise :) and from the preview video I thought it was a GOLFBALL ( which made me, as i said in my first post clear, doubt my own theory)... as you have written here, it is a pingpong ball, to me it then sounds even more like it is just a blow...

[MattSconce]

Your logic is the same as saying it is okay to pirate a DVD. The FBI would beg to differ.

Second, you are creating a straw man argument by claiming the effect is not released and therefore it is okay to figure out your own method. That is NOT what you are trying to do. You are trying to expose THE method, so you do not have to buy it. Buy helping people not buy it, you are impacting sales of the DVD, which takes money away from my family. THAT is what you are doing. You are stealing not just from me but from every magician you attempt to "Get the effect for free" from....how you justify that theft is up to you.

I love my family and try my best to provide for them. Put yourself in my shoes and imagine something you worked so hard on being stolen by people, and I think you will understand the impact the "Harmless" exposure does to all of us.
Anyway. My family and I wish you the best.
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v343/169/92/1035213530/n1035213530_180307_8257.jpg

Oh, and the method is NOT blowing. Try to get away with pulling off the effects I listed above by blowing. You will see it is impossible.
-Matt

[kcmoskater]

Your logic is the same as saying it is okay to pirate a DVD. The FBI would beg to differ.

i dont know what your talking about but theres NO piracy here and discussing methods that we make up in our minds is not illegal. we all have the rights to think, your effect isnt even out yet so everyone that is talking about your effect is just guessing. deal with it.

[buzzemann]

Your logic is the same as saying it is okay to pirate a DVD. The FBI would beg to differ.

Second, you are creating a straw man argument by claiming the effect is not released and therefore it is okay to figure out your own method. That is NOT what you are trying to do. You are trying to expose THE method, so you do not have to buy it. Buy helping people not buy it, you are impacting sales of the DVD, which takes money away from my family. THAT is what you are doing. You are stealing not just from me but from every magician you attempt to "Get the effect for free" from....how you justify that theft is up to you.

Oh, and the method is NOT blowing. Try to get away with pulling off the effects I listed above by blowing. You will see it is impossible.
-Matt

as i said in the other post: It is not okay to pirate a dvd, but it is okay to check if its okay before buying it ( by renting from a videoshop or a friend or watching the movie in Cinema).

Straw man argument ? why the heck is it wrong to say that it looks like its done this or that way when i see a video ?

I spend a LOT of money for magic stuff ( thousands a year), I do consult SEVERAL magic sellers and magic shops as IT consultant and i´ve learned and developed a lot from the internet and forums like this...

in the first post in this thread i CLEARLY said: i´m NOT SURE if it is the method... you and your buddy both said it is not blowing, so where is the problem ?

if you take it completely exact and word for word, the other guys and me where talking of a method that works for us ( re-read the posts ), i NEVER said YES: THAT IS THE Effect...
and, again: you said its not blowing, okay... It is not blowing... it never was blowing...
but for me, then I´ve found out sth. new: i can make things collapse ( only not to use the word falling ) by blowing at them: I can collapse cards, Pingpong Balls, stuff behind a bottle, move cigarettes, make from 3 standing pens one collapse, from several card stacks that are positioned in a special way collapse only one or two with my method, ( enough effects for me with a simple blow) that by discussing with guys here in the forum i found out.And those effects are enough for me... and I do not want any money for that, it´s completely free, I give it away, because I´ve invented better stuff for myself and people I trust and would never sell on the internet...

if you are so much against exposure, then patent your stuff and sue everybody that talks about it and feel fine...

[MattSconce]

i dont know what your talking about but theres NO piracy here and discussing methods that we make up in our minds is not illegal. we all have the rights to think, your effect isnt even out yet so everyone that is talking about your effect is just guessing. deal with it.

Again you miss the point. I have read countless threads here where people do not "Come up with methods in their minds" they reveal the actual EXACT methods because they have access to the tricks. That is called piracy and Intellectual Property theft. I have no problem with people speculating about methods, but that is different than outright theft, which exists all over the place here. I am trying to address the situation and talk to you guys to show you why that might not be the right thing to do, expecially as fellow magicians, before it happens to me, which would hurt my family.

Here is an example I see on the forums:

Anonymous 1: "Anyone know how trick X is done, can you reveal it for me plz?"
Anonymous 2: " Yeah I have it. It uses a A and a B and then you turn it over real fast.
Anonymous 1: "Thx."


Now, you have an outright theft of intellectual property. Enforceable. Nope, okay to do to the person who worked hard to make it? Nope. It is just a low thing to do to people trying to make it and proovide for their families, which are most of the magic creators around. magic does not pay big. It does not make you a rich person, unless you have a vegas show or a TV show. We do it because we love it and we release effects so we can help others experience the reactions from the effect and put bread on the table for our families.

Sincerely, Matt Sconce

[MattSconce]

Buzzeman,
I am not accusing your speculation as exposure, I am saying that exposure exists in many of the threads in the forum and that it hurts the magic community.

I am not saying blowing is not good, I was saying it was not the method, so you could know there is something out there that works better. I was saying it to help you, by leading you in a different direction. I am not angry as much as saddened by some of the magic community that does this to creators. Do you think you deserve the effects we release or are you grateful we release them. If you are grateful, then your response will be to buy the effect as a "Hey, thanks for releasing this, we know you didn't have to". If you feel you "deserve" them , then that explains why exposure occurs.

I am trying to show people that exposure does not just "Reveal methods" it hurts real people who are depending on sales to live. If you do not care about hurting people by your actions, that is up to you, but I just wanted to show the effect some of it has on me personally and my family, so people might be able to understand. No hate, just sadness and a desire to see people understand and help the magic community grow.

-Matt Sconce

[buzzemann]

I understand your point of view: but those who like your effect will buy it, if it has been exposed or not...that won´t change

And the whole expose thing: man: you CAN´T stop it... just look on youtube and other sides... nowadays magic IS a race with exposure, and you can talk to people as much as you want: even if 99% here would never ever again expose a trick, one day a guy would sign in and post a thread and say: errh, it´s like this and that...

Sure, for you as a creator it is sad, and you might think: it "costs me", but as you should know: people that take it serious ( like magick and lots of other people here, for example ) WILL buy what they think is worth it. so do I, but as i said before ( maybe not clear enough, but i´m not a native englisch speaker and so sometimes it is not easy to argument/discuss with people here ) i do lot of stuff myself and let me inspire by those forums and exposures... to develop new and own stuff... and, yes, i also sold some tricks a few years ago...they were also copied... but I don´t care... it was clear to me that days, that they will be copied and sold... you gotta deal with it: it´s magic... it´s tricks, its NOT supernatural powers... and people will ALWAYS try to find out what/why/how...

[MattSconce]

I understand better what you are saying now Buzzeman. Thanks for clarifying.

Here are my thoughts: Just because others are exposing magic does not make it okay. Swimming against the current may be hard, but it is neccessary to do the right thing for the creators of an effect and the magic community. I absolutely understand exposure is everywhere, but I have never been one to just except that. I will always fight exposure, whether or not I create effects. It is wrong and hurts the community. It is time the community stood up and all of us who call ourselves magicians, changed it forever. That is where I am coming from.
-Matt Sconce

[MattSconce]

Well, off I go to do the day job! I appreciate all of the comments and discussion on the topic and hope you all enjoy Power Word: Fall, and help stop exposure for all of us in the future. Sincerely, Matt Sconce

[buzzemann]

I understand better what you are saying now Buzzeman. Thanks for clarifying.

Here are my thoughts: Just because others are exposing magic does not make it okay. Swimming against the current may be hard, but it is neccessary to do the right thing for the creators of an effect and the magic community. I absolutely understand exposure is everywhere, but I have never been one to just except that. I will always fight exposure, whether or not I create effects. It is wrong and hurts the community. It is time the community stood up and all of us who call ourselves magicians, changed it forever. That is where I am coming from.
-Matt Sconce

I understand your point of view: 2 or 3 years ago I thought the same way and was everytime I saw sth. exposed very angry, mad and disappointed... but as it is not as in the good old days, where magic was only available and learnable for "the chosen few", it is something we have to deal with... and as you know: the BEST tricks cannot be exposed so easy, because their creators keep them in saves and only do them on stage shows or for a mall crowd.

But you should also see and understand the other side: just the speculations and ideas of the people trying to expose should show you in which direction they think: so you could easy create sth new that goes FAR another way...

to come back to your fallen: you know now, that people talk about threads and blowing... so you know which principles you shouldn´t use for the next effect that you create, and how you could possibly create other methods...

Exposure sure suxx in on way, but in the other ( and that was what I was talking about with the masked magician ) it helps to see, what other people see ( and it is not like for a standard audience that always comes with: magnet, thread,sleeve ), you see in Forums like this what other (young) magicians think it might be... that´s totally different and can help you a lot in improving your effects

[sonny]

Your logic is the same as saying it is okay to pirate a DVD. The FBI would beg to differ.

Second, you are creating a straw man argument by claiming the effect is not released and therefore it is okay to figure out your own method. That is NOT what you are trying to do. You are trying to expose THE method, so you do not have to buy it. Buy helping people not buy it, you are impacting sales of the DVD, which takes money away from my family. THAT is what you are doing. You are stealing not just from me but from every magician you attempt to "Get the effect for free" from....how you justify that theft is up to you.

I love my family and try my best to provide for them. Put yourself in my shoes and imagine something you worked so hard on being stolen by people, and I think you will understand the impact the "Harmless" exposure does to all of us.
Anyway. My family and I wish you the best.
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v343/169/92/1035213530/n1035213530_180307_8257.jpg

Oh, and the method is NOT blowing. Try to get away with pulling off the effects I listed above by blowing. You will see it is impossible.
-Matt



Lol cute baby there matt




But we do not support piracy here.



We are discussing your trick ... its not piracy


do i see your DVD posted on here? no.



its not in vid format.


We're Discussing your trick man.. you should be more happy that


we're actually intrested in talking about a trick like Fall.


Discussing is different from buying the dvd and posting it on some random forums ok?


Get it?



No Offense.

[stevethemagicguy]

i will buy this papercrane told me it is not blowing for sure it is gimmicked and you will need to buy a refills for the gimmick so looks awesome i will buy this matt is there a date or something for release yet?

[MattSconce]

i will buy this papercrane told me it is not blowing for sure it is gimmicked and you will need to buy a refills for the gimmick so looks awesome i will buy this matt is there a date or something for release yet?

It appears it will be released between the 27th of October and November 2nd.:) I am excited to get it out there.
-Matt Sconce

[buzzemann]

i will buy this papercrane told me it is not blowing for sure it is gimmicked and you will need to buy a refills for the gimmick so looks awesome i will buy this matt is there a date or something for release yet?

AAAHHHH... then it HAS to do with air: its a small softair gun tha you palm in your armpit and the bullets are the refills :) hehe :D

*JUST KIDDIN MATT* !!!

[MattSconce]

AAAHHHH... then it HAS to do with air: its a small softair gun tha you palm in your armpit and the bullets are the refills :) hehe :D

*JUST KIDDIN MATT* !!!

How'd you know!!! Grrr!!! Haha Just kidding.:)

[buzzemann]

How'd you know!!! Grrr!!! Haha Just kidding.:)

if you work in offices for many years you simply learn to shoot pens with tiny small guns :D and secretairies ;)

what will be the running time of the DVD ? is it in HD ? even in 3D ? ;)

[MattSconce]

45 minutes standard Def DVD with really cool cover art and menu setups and in depth instruction on every application.
-Matt Sconce

[MattSconce]

hey dude no of course you must be a proffessional. Now i know you might not but i think we could use as many actually performing magicians to help advise the others. So i hope this forum will soon get changed into non-exposure site but till then...we could use another experienced performer i think you'd be good on the forums...what do yah say?:)


I'll be around for a bit. I would love the site to become a haven for magicians..a place where magicians...and their secrets... are safe. but I cannot change it myself. People here must decide they want that. Until then, people will call this an exposure site, and it will continue to hurt the other magicians who attempt to introduce new effects to the world.
-Matt Sconce

[buzzemann]

I think joining this board is much to easy: there should be a ..dunno... online Test, on which you have to prove that you really are taking magic serious...or more mods that keep the users busy and warn and ban them if they start to post crap...
Many Boards have been closed due to copyright violations and exposure: this could ( and when it goes on like this will ) also happen to this board...
more "real magicians" would help this Forum very much, but i guess many of them are too busy to spend their short spare time for watching people talking and exposing their stuff... and a kind of age control, so there could be a kids board, and an adult board would also be an effort...

and I miss a chat ;)

[MagicMaddy]

Hi Matt does it come with the gimmick?

[ntroberts]

I think joining this board is much to easy: there should be a ..dunno... online Test, on which you have to prove that you really are taking magic serious...or more mods that keep the users busy and warn and ban them if they start to post crap...
Many Boards have been closed due to copyright violations and exposure: this could ( and when it goes on like this will ) also happen to this board...
more "real magicians" would help this Forum very much, but i guess many of them are too busy to spend their short spare time for watching people talking and exposing their stuff... and a kind of age control, so there could be a kids board, and an adult board would also be an effort...

and I miss a chat ;)

Yeah, joining the board is much too easy. However, a problem with tests is that answers can usually be found by going to Google. When I was starting out magic, I didn't know much of magic history but I passed those questions with flying colors. I'm take my beloved hobby seriously, but there was no way I was gonna be able to answer those questions since I didn't know where to start knowing the answers in the first place. For example, you'd only know that The Professor is Dai Vernon if you have a book of him or you've been told by a fellow magician, or you read another book that references him. In fact, since I learned of this, I've only read/heard this reference around four or five times in the course of 8 years.

About the board being shut down, there's not much threat of that since exposure and copyright infringement are very different. Tricks by themselves cannot be copyrighted, and thus cannot be infringed. The books and videos can, but the secret itself, isn't.

[citrusjrb]

I think joining this board is much to easy: there should be a ..dunno... online Test, on which you have to prove that you really are taking magic serious...or more mods that keep the users busy and warn and ban them if they start to post crap...
Many Boards have been closed due to copyright violations and exposure: this could ( and when it goes on like this will ) also happen to this board...
more "real magicians" would help this Forum very much, but i guess many of them are too busy to spend their short spare time for watching people talking and exposing their stuff... and a kind of age control, so there could be a kids board, and an adult board would also be an effort...

and I miss a chat ;)

That has been suggested many times before but I guess David doesnt like that idea.

[Dontavius Roivas]

Dave J. Castle wears blue on every single video...
;)

[citrusjrb]

Dave J. Castle wears blue on every single video...
;)

Sorry I am going off topic here but why did he ban Opeth?

[MattSconce]

Hi Matt does it come with the gimmick?

Yep it does. :)
-Matt Sconce

[Dontavius Roivas]

Sorry I am going off topic here but why did he ban Opeth?


Opeth was banned? Who banned him? and yeah why?

[citrusjrb]

Opeth was banned? Who banned him? and yeah why?

It was David I was looking at the mod control panel and I saw his name and it said that David did it.

[gigacurd]

I understand your point of view: but those who like your effect will buy it, if it has been exposed or not...that won´t change


sorry dude it WILL change, if i somehow stumbled upon the secret no way in hell will i pay an extra 29.95 for something I already know. Im not saying I will pirate cuz i wont. Also whats been bothering me is how u guys say "we;re not pirating we;re discussing". A discussion would be more like what u would see on magiccafe. This is a discussion yes, but its a discussion trying to reveal the methoid behind the trick.

[Motaz]

Hey Matt, I like your new effect i would like to buy it but i guess you won't ship it to Lithuania. So now about piracy. Magicians don't earn all the money from sales. Most of them works on restaurants and bars. Just look at Chris Kenner. Did you saw his house? I know, he's consultant to David Copperfield, but he earns money from magic tricks as well. And a lot of people pirate his dvd's and he is still rich as hell :D And a lot of people wouldn't buy dvd even if secret is not revealed anywhere. They just don't have money or etc.
But anyways I support You and your job. :)

[papercrane]

Kenner doesnt have any DVD's, and yes we do ship to Lithuania.

[Hoax]

Why Opeth were banned?

Look at what he wrote to a new member, double posting his own thread where he requests something and it even was in the wrong section: Yeah so fuck off.. We dont want people like you you fuck face. Go and fuck a gnome..

And yes this is Opeth but keep it to yourself otherwise Dave will probably ban me.. AGAIN! This is my twelfth account here -.-"

[buzzemann]

Why Opeth were banned?

Look at what he wrote to a new member, double posting his own thread where he requests something and it even was in the wrong section: Yeah so fuck off.. We dont want people like you you fuck face. Go and fuck a gnome..

And yes this is Opeth but keep it to yourself otherwise Dave will probably ban me.. AGAIN! This is my twelfth account here -.-"



12th account ? whoooow :) you should think twice what you post before you click the submit button ;)

[Dontavius Roivas]

Why Opeth were banned?

Look at what he wrote to a new member, double posting his own thread where he requests something and it even was in the wrong section: Yeah so fuck off.. We dont want people like you you fuck face. Go and fuck a gnome..

And yes this is Opeth but keep it to yourself otherwise Dave will probably ban me.. AGAIN! This is my twelfth account here -.-"

Oh this is opeth, 12th account wow haha, did Dave say anything to you or did he just ban you. He is a werid fella.

[Hoax]

12th account ? whoooow :) you should think twice what you post before you click the submit button ;)

Oh this is opeth, 12th account wow haha, did Dave say anything to you or did he just ban you. He is a werid fella.

When people have banned me, they have given NO reason or told me anything.. I just went on the computer this afternoon and realized that I was banned.. So I thought; WHY the hell did someone ban me? Then Demon told me a possible reason..lol

Anyways, lets get on topic:)

[stevethemagicguy]

matt is it just invisible thread' or something else i dont want exposer but just dont want to pay 30 bucks for thread if it is anything other than that ill buy one launch day

[Motaz]

Kenner doesnt have any DVD's, and yes we do ship to Lithuania.

He taugh Bich's TnR in one of Theory11 dvd's and he has a lot of 1on1's videos on T11 :)

[buzzemann]

matt is it just invisible thread' or something else i dont want exposer but just dont want to pay 30 bucks for thread if it is anything other than that ill buy one launch day

I will not expose or try anymore, because I promised to matt BUT:
If it was thread... would the Objects fall away from the performer ? I doubt so ( unless it was an impractical set up )

I don´t know the exact method, but it must have to do with something that goes away from you ( as my first post said: somehow speeded up air )... and as we know, not a blow... ( I have other Ideas, but will not tell them, as I promised Matt )

[Dontavius Roivas]

I will not expose or try anymore, because I promised to matt BUT:
If it was thread... would the Objects fall away from the performer ? I doubt so ( unless it was an impractical set up )

I don´t know the exact method, but it must have to do with something that goes away from you ( as my first post said: somehow speeded up air )... and as we know, not a blow... ( I have other Ideas, but will not tell them, as I promised Matt )

Look man you're not exposing anything we're sharing ideas. That Matt guy can not take our ideas and how we work things. You arnt exposing anything, for godsakes its not even out yet.

[buzzemann]

Look man you're not exposing anything we're sharing ideas. That Matt guy can not take our ideas and how we work things. You arnt exposing anything, for godsakes its not even out yet.

Yeah, I know: I said it´s not out yet first, but I promised Matt...

my heart beats like a drum ;) when I would like to say something... but as I promised, I will not talk about methods anymore in this thred :D

[Dontavius Roivas]

Yeah, I know: I said it´s not out yet first, but I promised Matt...

my heart beats like a drum ;) when I would like to say something... but as I promised, I will not talk about methods anymore in this thred :D

Yeah I understand, I just dont feel like him coming back repeating the same thing and everything will start all over again. So are you not talking about magic revealed only on this thread or on this entire site again? Because it would be werid if you never talked about magic revealed again because as you know this is a magic revealed website, learnmagictricks.org
But yeah I understand where you are coming from

[buzzemann]

Yeah I understand, I just dont feel like him coming back repeating the same thing and everything will start all over again. So are you not talking about magic revealed only on this thread or on this entire site again? Because it would be werid if you never talked about magic revealed again because as you know this is a magic revealed website, learnmagictricks.org
But yeah I understand where you are coming from


Only on this Thread :) and I know it will be revealed one day... and then I will give my 2 ccents about it...it is more that I had a nice conversation with Matt via PM yesterday and promised not to talk about this trick anymore...

there has been so much revealed here in the forums ( and I also did some, check my posts )... and I will reveal the one or other thing if i want to... but in this particular topic I will shut up ;)

[Dontavius Roivas]

Only on this Thread :) and I know it will be revealed one day... and then I will give my 2 ccents about it...it is more that I had a nice conversation with Matt via PM yesterday and promised not to talk about this trick anymore...

there has been so much revealed here in the forums ( and I also did some, check my posts )... and I will reveal the one or other thing if i want to... but in this particular topic I will shut up ;)

Yeah sounds right I guess, but really who hasnt revealed here? I mean all of us are magicians so I think its fine, we're here just to spread the magic around. And yeah Im positive when it does come out someone will reveal it on here, it just will theres nothing matt/me/you/anyone can do about that. Oh yeah and also is Matt ever coming back? Because his last post said something about leaving the forum, and also papercrane said he might bring dan hauss and bsmith by for Q & A's, so look forward to see them. ;)

[ryutarotion]

im buying this anyways..s
i am buying lit, technique and fall ..

[buzzemann]

im buying this anyways..s
i am buying lit, technique and fall ..

lol, as an apple user, it´s clear you buy it: you love overpriced stuff :D

just a joke, don´t take it serious ;)

[ryutarotion]

lol yes
i waste money but i gain more

[fusion]

I'm thinking invisible thread, but that seems to obvious. Any ideas to how it is done??

You are a magician :P because you figured it out! :) That's right, invisible elastic thread :)

I didn't reveal anything :) I am just responding to a statement :)

It's only seem obvious because you are a magician. Laymen seldom think about invisible threads :P

[MattSconce]

You are a magician because you figured it out! That's right, invisible elastic thread

I didn't reveal anything I am just responding to a statement

It's only seem obvious because you are a magician. Laymen seldom think about invisible threads


You are part of the way there. The method is the crazy thing. As everyone has said in the reviews so far. The method kills. It is not something you expect or do, and changes everything. I hope those of you who get this enjoy it and use it to create amazing moments for people. Read some of the reviews from the Cafe to see what other magicians are saying. Here are some:


On 2008-10-29 17:35, Pete Legend wrote:
Hi,

I bought dvd+download package today...before I comment I like to point out that I dislike Matt so don't worry about this review being biased in any way whatsoever :D

First the download is easy to access.Im terrible with technology but even I had no bother clicking on the link which pops up after payment

The method itself is glorious! If it were a girl I would date her even if she had no personality...It really is first class.Its something Geller would do if he didn't have real PK powers :D

The explanations are crystal clear.Matt goes over each detail in a clear concise manner and nothing is left out.All the little things and subtle ploys are included..some are nothing short of genius!The piece can be performed pretty much on the go if desired which is fantastic :)

It looks real.If you were to perform pk in test conditions I think this is how it would look/feel.I love it and will perform it Its very very practical in all sorts of settings.Its something you will enjoy working on and will adore performing!One of my all time best purchases.

Pete

P.S. I don't really dislike Matt ;)



On 2008-10-29 17:39, fridoliina89 wrote:
I just got this and all I can say about it is WOW, this is really good extreamly practical and easy to do.
Im watching it on my mac book right now Items are easy to find. For me this is the best thing of 2008 so far. The download is very well produced with some very good explanations and some creepy cool music.

This effect performed with a good presentation will really freak people out.




On 2008-10-29 18:03, Lord Of The Horses wrote:
I told what I thought this to be to Matt (just to be sure if I could use it or not) and Matt not only confirmed my thoughts but kindly explained to me most of the details, days before this effect went on sale.

As a thank you for his trust, I went ahead and bought this.

I am very happy of having done that, because there were two things that I never thought of myself (cannot say more because it would give away part of the method) and then one more thing that I thought was pure genius... the REVERSE powerword.

Highly Recommended!



On 2008-10-29 15:45, bloodkin wrote:
Had a chance to review and play around with this today. I've been doing all kinds of PK stuff for over ten years now and have no idea how in the heck this never popped into my grey matter.

In a word, this is brilliant.

Matt teaches several variations on the DVD and all of these look awesome and some are just freakin' impossible. Matt explains everything crystal clear, and includes not just the varied effects but also versions of FALL for the street and walk around.

If you like what you see in the demo, you'll like FALL.



That is what other magicians ar saying about Fall so far. I hope you get the same enjoyment out of it! -Matt Sconce