holy crap how is this done?

[fkace63]

http://www.lybrary.com/images/double_jeopardy.wmv

How the hell is this done?


The performer removes a card that has plenty of white space on its face from the deck – say, the Two of Hearts - and writes a prediction on the face of this card with a marker pen. The prediction is left face down on the table. A spectator now selects a card from the deck (say the JS), after which the card is lost back into the deck. The deck is now given to a second spectator who - only now - names ANY number. To keep the routine moving along you suggest he thinks of any number between 1 and 30. He might name 17. He now deals to the 17th card and places this card on the table next to the prediction. Now for the amazing finish.

[magick]

http://www.lybrary.com/images/double_jeopardy.wmv

How the hell is this done?


The performer removes a card that has plenty of white space on its face from the deck – say, the Two of Hearts - and writes a prediction on the face of this card with a marker pen. The prediction is left face down on the table. A spectator now selects a card from the deck (say the JS), after which the card is lost back into the deck. The deck is now given to a second spectator who - only now - names ANY number. To keep the routine moving along you suggest he thinks of any number between 1 and 30. He might name 17. He now deals to the 17th card and places this card on the table next to the prediction. Now for the amazing finish.

i'd use a svengali deck(where every other card is the same).

[benpmagic]

i'd use a svengali deck(where every other card is the same).

How would you know the number selected though?

[ntroberts]

It doesn't matter. Every other card is the same. Now there's a 50-50 chance of getting it right. If you hit an odd card, then just reveal, if you hit an even card, reveal the next card instead. For example, if the spectator says 15, then deal to the 15th card. If he says 14 then say it's going to be the card after dealing off 14 other cards. See the diff?

[fkace63]

when he spreads the pack, it doesn't look like a roughed smoothed svengali, it looks like a normal deck. Also does anyone know how he got the number correct, that he predicted on the other card?

[traumatised-magic]

there were a few things i caught that looked a bit odd. the first one bein the double undercut of the top 2 cards....not really sure why he did that. the second thing bein that he wrote the prediction on the card with the cards up straight yet when he revealed it the nuber was written side ways not sure why that was either

after watchin the video tho, when he spreads the cards out u never see the bottom 2/3rds of the deck he spreads thru untill he gets to the 2 hearts wich is in the top 20 cards meaning there could b 30 dupes wich would b why he asks for a number between 1 and 30 cause the top 30 cards are all the same. little extreme for a trick but its the simplest thing i can think of....not sure how he gets the number tho

[fkace63]

this is what i have come up with so far:


In reality, he never writes down a prediction, and does a second deal, putting down the force card (jack of spades instead. He has 30 duplicates of the 2 of hearts on the top of the pack. The main principle must be having each duplicate 2 of hearts numbered, one through thirty. For instance the top card has a 1 on it the second card has a 2 on it and so on so forth. If you deal down to card number 21, 21 is written on that card, for example. Then he switches the card on the table with the card that came out of the pack. Obviously there are little things I'm missing, and would be more than happy if you guys helped fill in the spaces. All I know is the MAIN principle is numbering the top thirty cards and doing some switch. The switch is something smilar to the mexican turnover, and he uses a time lapse to make people forget about the actual switch. When he does the switch, he quickly gestures to the other card in his left hand to "sell it"


One of the key things I'm missing is how he forces the jack of spades. Maybe he just classic forces in an actual performance?
Do you guys like the routine? I think that if the magician can pace it properly without making people lose attention it can be devastating.


The method is so intricate, I'm assuming that if we end up coming up with "the method" it will end up being different from the exact method this dude does, but I don't mind at all.

[traumatised-magic]

that sounds good, and after watchin the performance video again there is a slight inconsistancy. watch when he picks up the cards the video skips. maybe he is tryin to hide the fact he switches the cards around, it just looks really weird. why edit a video at that crucial point if all he needs to do is a simple card switch. there are quite a few different ways to switch 2 cards in ur hand theres no need to edit it like that, just makes it look suspicious.

i think u may b right tho about the 30 2 hearts with numbers written on them.

the jack is obviously classic forced and that would mean a duplicate is on top or just below the 2 when he pulls it out and takes it with the 2 when he puts it ontop

[fkace63]

thanks for the input traum. It really looks like an edit. What methods are there for switching 2 cards? I only know the mexican turnover, but it often comes across as being very obvious.

[traumatised-magic]

well in the case of this video i would say the best thing to do is a move like a top change but u only use 2 cards obviously. so in the motion of takin the top card u actaully take the bottom card or u could just turn over both cards at the same time without a switch

what u could do is when showin the top card pick up both cards and flip over hte bottom card retaingin the top card in ur hand, it would create the perfect illusion that u just flipped over the top card