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traumatised-magic
01-14-2009, 06:15 PM
ok this is very rare but im in need of some help. i'm lookin for this trick, its called 357 and its a kind of russian roulette trick without a gun, it uses cards in envelopes - http://themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/findit.pl?x_item=DA2431

"A participant is invited to examine six cards, each one has the word 'Click' on one side and 'Bang' on the other. Six regular envelopes are examined and any card is placed into any envelope as the performer explains that each card represents a bullet and each envelope is the chamber of a gun. Turning away the performer instructs them to place one card showing the 'Bang' and the others showing a 'Click' into each envelope. All are mixed up as the performer turns back and attempts to divine which envelope contains the 'Bang' card.

Using suggestion, precognition and persuasion the performer puts money on the table and states that if he makes a mistake he'll lose the cash. Maybe not as life threatening as a live bullet but none the less painful in it's own way. Each envelope is eliminated one by one, more and more cash is placed on the table until just one remains. Despite the real test conditions you will succeed every time. No marks, peeks, impressions, forces, electronics, duel reality, equivoque or pateo."

it also says they are able to use their own envelopes, so i would guess that means there is no marked envelopes of any kind and no specially gimmicked envelopes.

the only thing i can think it would b is somethin to distinguish each card when its in the envelope but then if its obvious enough the spec would surely notice them when out side the envelopes.

really has me stumped to be honest, i'm prob not thinkin enough into it

but it sounds liek somehtin i could add to my act

redspade200
01-14-2009, 09:02 PM
Nice trick. To make it better, you could have people place bets that you won't find it, and when you do, you make money:D. Sorry I don't know. I can't even think of a way to do it without the slightest mark.

CoinFlip
01-15-2009, 01:26 AM
Well there's no performance that I saw at the link... so???

And penguin is selling.. It says a gimmick is required

And the only logical method is you can tell which one is the correct one... By the description it seems a bit odd. It says the cards have both bang and click... So couldn't you simply flip the card when you take it out? wtf? Am I missing something here?

traumatised-magic
01-15-2009, 04:18 AM
well what i got from it is 5 cards have click and one card has bang, u then get the spec to put these in seperate envelopes of their choice, all while ur back is turned ur then able to tell wich envelope has the bang card in it

Bubba Smith
01-15-2009, 07:29 AM
It's all about the cards....they have "softer-corners" on each diag. end.

Also they have to be turned end-for-end...Not just flipped over for it to work.

I doubt if they can be made....and penguin is out of stock.

T.M. I think there is a video at "that other site"...pretty sure it's non-VIP D/L

fusion
01-15-2009, 07:51 AM
the cards has 'click' and 'bang' on both sides, then one card is chosen to be 'bang' so it is flip over.

the trick uses special cards as mentined, soft corners. you know which is the 'bang' by feeling it when you are talking. this can also be achieved using marked cards (invisible marks), which is also explained in part of the DVD.

you can make such cards, not exactly the same but would do the job. split a card and put shim inside them, but only a shim from 1 corner to another (diagonally), not the whole card.

traumatised-magic
01-15-2009, 12:36 PM
It's all about the cards....they have "softer-corners" on each diag. end.

Also they have to be turned end-for-end...Not just flipped over for it to work.

I doubt if they can be made....and penguin is out of stock.

T.M. I think there is a video at "that other site"...pretty sure it's non-VIP D/L

unfortunatly the tutorial is still on vip :(

thanx guys really appreciate the help

and you already know but if anyone needs any help i'm more than happy to help out if i can :)

jenemagic
01-15-2009, 01:51 PM
unfortunatly the tutorial is still on vip :(

thanx guys really appreciate the help

and you already know but if anyone needs any help i'm more than happy to help out if i can :)

are you talking about xtrememagics? i searched on there and couldn't find it anywhere.

traumatised-magic
01-15-2009, 02:05 PM
no, we're talkin about neo

Bubba Smith
01-15-2009, 04:51 PM
T.M. This is all you need...

http://www.penguinmagic.com/specialorderproduct.php?ID=11057

This uses the exact same method

http://www.thetrickery.com/full/Magic-Tricks-Magic-Shop-Collectible-Magic-Street-Magic-31485-Esp-Telepathy-Cards__5590.htm

traumatised-magic
01-15-2009, 04:56 PM
shame they are out of stock or i would have got them. i may try makin my own for the time bein. thanx for the info bubba