Tarantula Floating Device

[lmaoatyou]

Hi Guys! What we've all been waiting for, and I'd Just thought I'd start a proper thread about the new Yigal Mesika 'Tarantula' that'll go on sale very soon :D

I've seen the video preview and official trailer for it and i've gotta say, I'm absolutely astounded. It looks awesome, and after seeing it before I didn't take much notice of it for some reason. I've looked at it again recently, and I'm totally blown away at Yigal's handling of the Tarantula. It seems to me that this is one whole new era that Yigal's brought and it's gonna be exciting :)

Here's the official trailer:
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So what do you think???

Release Info:
Release Date: 1st March
Product Price: $75.00 retail

[magic123]

Video of preview???

[Renegade]

Spider pen?

Just a suggestion.

[lmaoatyou]

It could be, but a much MUCH more upgraded version and some new tweaks here and there. Yigal says that he's innovated a few new features in this one, so I think it differs a bit from a spider pen.

So is it definitely some sort of Invisible Thread Reel?

[A.C.E]

It could be, but a much MUCH more upgraded version and some new tweaks here and there. Yigal says that he's innovated a few new features in this one, so I think it differs a bit from a spider pen.

So is it definitely some sort of Invisible Thread Reel?
No, it's mexican black magic :eek: jk.... but yeah It's a real, unless someone else has something that contradicts that.

[lmaoatyou]

lol @ mexican black magic. Ahhh okay then. But one thing i don't get. How is he running his finger over the ring all the way around if it's a reel?

[A.C.E]

Dunno, and from the shot it's at the finger might not be going completely above the thread, it just looks like it cause it gives you a side shot, so that's my guess

[lmaoatyou]

Yeah true. But maybe he is running his finger all the way round, which is why he probably said that there are some new features...?

[arsenal09]

its definitly some thought of reel, probaly spider pen. random name trantula though? :D btw i was browsing on magic cafe and someone said it is going to be release after the blackpool convention. not long then:)

[lmaoatyou]

Ahhh right okay then. So it's a reel, definitely? But that still doesn't answer my question as to how he's running his finger all the way round. A.C.E suggested it could have been the camera angle but what if it isn't?
I've updated some release info in the first post.

[traumatised-magic]

its obviosuly a reel, and he doesnt move is finger all the way around, u can clearly see he does it at an agle. meanging he is just goin around the ring but not touchin the thread that is hangin straight down

it must be some sort of advancement form the spider pen, hence the name tarantual for a start. lol

i really like the look of it tho, especially the part that the ring just falls form the air to land on a spectators finger.

looks very impessive

[arsenal09]

im browsing magic cafe and one guy said " i think those of you who like the spider pen or other ITRs will really like this alternitive. im definitly stumped now :)

[lmaoatyou]

actually, having looked at it a bit more i think he doesn't move his finger all the way round but his placement is very good.. a clear advancement from the spider pen :cool:

and yeah arsenal i've just been reading the posts on the magic cafe as well, and it's got me wondering lol - "alternative" :rolleyes:

[Moog]

I think Morgan Stebler use the same finger move in Spun...

[pimbo]

If it is not very expensive then i will probably get it if it is a factory made gimmick that you can't make yourself.

[traumatised-magic]

well its goin to be an upgrade to the spider pen, u wont b able to make it

[arsenal09]

ill buy it if its cheap:) hopeully the thread will be invisible to the human eye. the thread will have to be quite strong to carry the ring though

[traumatised-magic]

i cant see it bein all that cheap to b honest, i mean the spider pen was quite expensive when it first came out...as far as i know its still pretty expensive compared to most ITR.
i would say the thread used will b kevlar, its the strongest thread u can buy and is pretty invisible....its also more than likely why he is wearin a black shirt to try and hide it more....altho most people prefer to wear busy pattern shirts rather than just black, i've never really seen the poit of that to b honest, i've never had problems with the thread bein seen against a nromal black shirt.....

[lmaoatyou]

Yeah I think it's a device you can't make yourself, and it being an upgraded version of the spider pen i think you'll probably get what you pay for.

Anyway, i hope the thread is going to be of a good quality in terms of light and distance; the thread used for loops is ideal, and i think most of us who use loops will probably be used to working around using that type of thread. But if it's a slightly different thread i hope it's easier to work around in terms of invisibility and strength. Kevlar thread will be best like traum says, but if this uses a whole new thread then i'm impressed.

I hope it's relatively cheap enough so it's in my budget.. but if it's a bit higher than i expected then i'm probably gonna save up for this beast :cool:

[arsenal09]

i think it will be like the spider pen but in a diffrent form a.c.a glasses:D. i personaly dont think you will be able to make it because simply the spider ppen is nearly impossible to make:(

[BlindDodo]

its definitly some thought of reel, probaly spider pen. random name trantula though? btw i was browsing on magic cafe and someone said it is going to be release after the blackpool convention. not long then

:D :D XD ;)

[pimbo]

I think that at 56 sec - 58 sec you can see that the finger goes over the ring.

[magick]

its definitly some type of reel, probaly spider pen. random name trantula though? :)


i dont think its random......a trantula is a bad ass spider....

spider pen.....trantula.....thread.....

sounds like a perfect name to me.

i think i'll get one....

[traumatised-magic]

I think that at 56 sec - 58 sec you can see that the finger goes over the ring.

its a classic move when dealin with thread ur finger does go over the object enough to convince spectators there is nothin holding it up but not enough for u to actually interfear with the thread

[Calbrit01]

I saw him do this live in Venice Beach, LA about 6 weeks ago, and I have been trying to figure out the ring effect ever since. The real ( or reel:) ) kicker for me was the ring was spinning, during the whole routine. Yes, an ITR can can accomplish the hovering ring but not on the horizontal plane as far as I can find out.

On this video I did notice he used the same ring as he did when I saw him do it - originally I thought the ring was gaffed and the outside actually spins, allowing dual anchors on the inner ring but the name tarantula makes me suspect it is multiple anchors on a rings wound like the elastic band on an ITR - doesnt explain the ring onto finger though, and I did see him do that on his own and a spectator's finder, so that is not camera trickery to enhance sales. Cant wait till it become available, its the one thing on my thread repertoire I just can't figure out, and its driving me nuts !

[magick]

I saw him do this live in Venice Beach, LA about 6 weeks ago, and I have been trying to figure out the ring effect ever since. The real ( or reel:) ) kicker for me was the ring was spinning, during the whole routine. Yes, an ITR can can accomplish the hovering ring but not on the horizontal plane as far as I can find out.

On this video I did notice he used the same ring as he did when I saw him do it - originally I thought the ring was gaffed and the outside actually spins, allowing dual anchors on the inner ring but the name tarantula makes me suspect it is multiple anchors on a rings wound like the elastic band on an ITR - doesnt explain the ring onto finger though, and I did see him do that on his own and a spectator's finder, so that is not camera trickery to enhance sales. Cant wait till it become available, its the one thing on my thread repertoire I just can't figure out, and its driving me nuts !

the hookup is the same as spun by morgan strebler

i float a ring just like this.....the wax ball with the thread is attached to the inside of the ring......

the spinning momentum keeps it horizontal......

[traumatised-magic]

the hookup is the same as spun by morgan strebler

i float a ring just like this.....the wax ball with the thread is attached to the inside of the ring......

the spinning momentum keeps it horizontal......

i was just bout to say that too.

the one thing i really like about it is the way it just falls out of the air onto the spectators finger.....

[magick]

i was just bout to say that too.

the one thing i really like about it is the way it just falls out of the air onto the spectators finger.....

me too.....not sure how he gets rid of the hook up.....

the only thing that bothers me is that you wont be doing it with a barrowed ring......it would have to be a really large ring to just fall all the way on like that.....you can see in the vid how big it is....

so i guess it falls on and then he removes it from their finger....gets rid of the hookup and maybe hands it out.....

but its definately not the spectators ring....

[traumatised-magic]

yeah i noticed that when he was doin it, it was absolutly massive on the womans finger and really didnt suit her either lol

it would b good if it really does fall off the thread rather than him havein to detach it but i guess that may b askin a bit much lol

[magick]

yeah i noticed that when he was doin it, it was absolutly massive on the womans finger and really didnt suit her either lol

it would b good if it really does fall off the thread rather than him havein to detach it but i guess that may b askin a bit much lol

notice in the video how he holds her hand in position before the drop.....the only reason to keep such careful control.......iis to keep her from taking her hand away after the drop....

if it was going to disconect......he wouldn't need that kind of control.....

mark my words.....after it falls....he reaches up and takes it back off of her.]

i may be wrong....but i'll be suprised if i am....

[traumatised-magic]

notice in the video how he holds her hand in position before the drop.....the only reason to keep such careful control.......iis to keep her from taking her hand away after the drop....

if it was going to disconect......he wouldn't need that kind of control.....

mark my words.....after it falls....he reaches up and takes it back off of her.]

i may be wrong....but i'll be suprised if i am....

yeah it wouldnt surprise me if ur right, like i said i'm just wanting too much out of this lol

[lmaoatyou]

Wow.. actually - I dunno why i'm saying this but i've got a feeling that it disconnects just before it falls onto the spectator's finger. I'm not sure why but i think it's just the way it falls down, like a thread's being retracted and then there's nothing supporting it so it falls due to gravity alone. Because if it still had a thread attached when it lands on the spectator's finger there's a VERY big risk and a HIGHLY likely that they might turn away to show other people or walk away a few yards to show somebody.. If that's the case then that's your deviced buggered up..

I hope, just like a lot of the people on this thread, that there is something verrry special to the Tarantula, with a slight more magic like we're discussing (about the detachment before the drop)... Damn i want this so bad..

[Calbrit01]

Available to pre-order for 1st March, and yes its even more expensive than spider-pen:

http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/?product=11287

P.S. Like to see anyone who has video of spinning ring not using spider-pen or Tarantula, see if I am going to have buyers remorse:o

[magick]

Available to pre-order for 1st March, and yes its even more expensive than spider-pen:

http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/?product=11287

P.S. Like to see anyone who has video of spinning ring not using spider-pen or Tarantula, see if I am going to have buyers remorse:o

watch the video for spun by morgan strebler...

he teaches the horizontal spinning ring float with the spun hookup.....

like i said....i do the floating ring all the time.

[lmaoatyou]

Just read all of that stuff on the hocus pocus page and it sounds like it's as simple as anything..

[magick]

Just read all of that stuff on the hocus pocus page and it sounds like it's as simple as anything..

just because it's simple, doesn't mean that it wont take lots of practice and work to make it look real....

you want it to look like its floating and not hanging from a string.

in theory and method its easy.....but it still takes long hours of practice to really fool people with it.

[lmaoatyou]

just because it's simple, doesn't mean that it wont take lots of practice and work to make it look real....

Nooo, you misunderstood me. I meant simple as in simpler in terms of other ITRs and their handling. As in simpler setups, simpler placements and simpler handling sort of thing.

But yeah, i agree with you about the effect looking real. But simple or not simple i'm gonna practice until i get it right anyway hehe.

[pimbo]

Not that expensive i thought that it would be $150 but i can be shore that it has good quality because Mesika always has quality items.I think that this is just a upgraded spider pen (Like can hold more thread,faster,quieter) with a new look.

Quote from Tanner's Magic Shop: "The Tarantula uses the same spider pen spooler thread and a common button cell battery.

If you use the spider pen, loops, Invisible thread or ITR then you will use and love the Tarantula. "

[lmaoatyou]

Yeah, they're right about that one. I use loops a lot and like tricks related to them; levitations, etc.. That's why the Tarantula seems so appealing to a lot of people here - because it's a significant step-up from other ITRs there are on the market these days. The fact that it's from Mesika is even better, because he trys his best to find the best quality thread for these products in terms of invisibility and strength.

[A.C.E]

I'm just wondering how much the refills are going to be, i've never used an ITR before so idk if people have to replace the thread a lot, but if you do I wonder how much it will cost.

[lmaoatyou]

Yeah I don't use ITRs very often either. But the refills, and this is a guess btw (an educated guess), won't be that expensive because the actual product may be over the budget of a few people. If the system works like the Ultrasmoke (expensive product, expensive refills) then i'm gonna hang myself.

[traumatised-magic]

I'm just wondering how much the refills are going to be, i've never used an ITR before so idk if people have to replace the thread a lot, but if you do I wonder how much it will cost.

well if its anythin like other reels then u wont have to refil it all that much unless ur really bad with it and keep snappin it...i've had my ITR for about 3-4 years and i've actually only refilled it maybe 1 or 2 times, its the elastic that gets worn and breaks more often than the thread...at least it does for me, i've replaced the elastic so many times lol

but that is the great advantage of the spider pen....its an electronic winder so i can only assume the tarantula is the same...i mean why go backwards with technology. so no wearing of the elastic it'll prob just the battteries need changein

[A.C.E]

well if its anythin like other reels then u wont have to refil it all that much unless ur really bad with it and keep snappin it...i've had my ITR for about 3-4 years and i've actually only refilled it maybe 1 or 2 times, its the elastic that gets worn and breaks more often than the thread...at least it does for me, i've replaced the elastic so many times lol

but that is the great advantage of the spider pen....its an electronic winder so i can only assume the tarantula is the same...i mean why go backwards with technology. so no wearing of the elastic it'll prob just the battteries need changein
Oh, lol I probably won't get this though, I don't think my first ITR should be a 70-80 dollar one, I'm not worthy :eek:

[traumatised-magic]

why not, may as well go for the best lol
its better to have a decent quality one rather than one that's gonna break after a few performances then u get it in ur mind that the ITR is a pile of junk and never buy one again lol

[A.C.E]

why not, may as well go for the best lol
its better to have a decent quality one rather than one that's gonna break after a few performances then u get it in ur mind that the ITR is a pile of junk and never buy one again lol
Yeah I guess lol, idk though, I'm still saving for TA and money is hard for me to get atm, its too cold to mow lawns and too warm to shovel driveways, and since I'm not allowed to get my license yet (im 16, my parents are just strict) I cant get a job =/, I'll get this if I get the money lol, I might want some reviews for it first.

[traumatised-magic]

Yeah I guess lol, idk though, I'm still saving for TA and money is hard for me to get atm, its too cold to mow lawns and too warm to shovel driveways, and since I'm not allowed to get my license yet (im 16, my parents are just strict) I cant get a job =/, I'll get this if I get the money lol, I might want some reviews for it first.

yeah im in the same boat at the moment, i'd much rather get TA than this but this will deffiantly be in my list to get

[A.C.E]

Yeah, I'm just hoping they don't stop making TA, idk if this is going to be like a limited time offer or something so I'm trying to get it as fast as I can lol

[lmaoatyou]

Okay i'm probably missing something here, or i'm having a blank day, or i'm a complete idiot, but what's a TA again?

:eek:

[pimbo]

TA = True Astonishment by Paul Harris!

The refill for the Tarantula is the same as for the Spider Pen.It is $10 a spool of 25 feet of thread.It uses the same small battery's as the Spider Pen.

[jaka_10]

I'm soo buying that! It is awesome! The best thing is that the ting lands on their finger:D wow:) But i'll wait for the product to come in UK..then i'll order it..so no taxes (like from USA) :D smart hu?! LOL:P

[fusion]

Yeah, I'm just hoping they don't stop making TA, idk if this is going to be like a limited time offer or something so I'm trying to get it as fast as I can lol

unfortunately to tell you TA wasn't as great as it was promised to be... too much hyped. I have the opportunity to get my hands on the dvd and It is only ok material.

However i believe tarantula would be great, you should be able to do freaky stuffs with it. But remember that there could be further maintenance cost like refilling IT and possibly expensive batteries.

[magick]

unfortunately to tell you TA wasn't as great as it was promised to be... too much hyped. I have the opportunity to get my hands on the dvd and It is only ok material.

However i believe tarantula would be great, you should be able to do freaky stuffs with it. But remember that there could be further maintenance cost like refilling IT and possibly expensive batteries.

so you watched all 9 of the new paul harris dvds and didnt like the material?

[pimbo]

unfortunately to tell you TA wasn't as great as it was promised to be... too much hyped. I have the opportunity to get my hands on the dvd and It is only ok material.

He is lieing i don't belive that TA is ok material.
The IT refill for Tarantula is 10 dollars and the battery's are just regular watch battery's.

[fusion]

so you watched all 9 of the new paul harris dvds and didnt like the material?

Not that i didn't like the materials at all. There were some good stuffs out of all the DVDs. Some seems just old effects with different presentation and handling, and some doesn't have the 'wow' factor and impact, and some are not practical for occasions. But out of them, there are some gems as well, maybe one or 2 from each dvd. Everyone probably has different opinion, as you'll notice on the magiccafe that some loves all of them, maybe cos $300 is a lot, and they want to believe they got good stuffs. But i am more realistic and for $300 i say it's not total value for money. Not supergrand stuffs. I would say like investing in sets of some WGM dvd collection would give you more value. Nothing against PH, I like him and some of his magic, but just my opinion of the TA sets. They did great marketing of the TA sets, hence there were lots of hype and expectation from it.

[svu]

Definitely looking forward to this item to come in on March 1st.

The spider pen was good. This one looks amazing!

[ALLen]

the angle of the ITR is kinda hard to present to an audience..

it definitely is a great advancement to the spider pen.

[Calbrit01]

I have a couple of questions:

For those who have seen Tarantula, is there something special about the reels or are we just guessing here based on the spider pen? My existing ITR I can replace the thread on, and at 5:00 for 300 ft of Vectran, I am unlikely to ever need to buy thread again.

My second question, is do you have to pay tax when importing into the UK? I only have to pay state tax if the company I am ordering from is also in California like me. Do you have to pay the VAT difference? Its still probably cheaper buying from the US though, as my experience is you pay a dollar for something here, you pay a pound for the same thing in the UK, so gonna cost you around fifty pounds - well maybe with shipping its evens. Maybe i'll pack a suitcase full of Tarants and flog em off cheap when I am in the UK in August ;)

[traumatised-magic]

yeah thats usually right, if its a dollar over in the states the same product is usually a pound over here in the uk...but when u consider the exchange rate that means buyin from the states is a lot cheaper....i'm not 100% on the rate at the moment but it used to be 2 dollars to the pound so buyin from the states was basically like gettin it for half price

i'm quite lookin forward to this, i use my regular ITR quite a lot and this seems like the perfect upgrade for me to get

[fusion]

I have a couple of questions:

For those who have seen Tarantula, is there something special about the reels or are we just guessing here based on the spider pen? My existing ITR I can replace the thread on, and at 5:00 for 300 ft of Vectran, I am unlikely to ever need to buy thread again.

My second question, is do you have to pay tax when importing into the UK? I only have to pay state tax if the company I am ordering from is also in California like me. Do you have to pay the VAT difference? Its still probably cheaper buying from the US though, as my experience is you pay a dollar for something here, you pay a pound for the same thing in the UK, so gonna cost you around fifty pounds - well maybe with shipping its evens. Maybe i'll pack a suitcase full of Tarants and flog em off cheap when I am in the UK in August ;)

When you buy something from US and import it into the UK, you do get TAX by the customs, but it depends on a few factors... firstly on your luck! and depends on the value of the product. I can't remember the exact value, but if it is over certain amount of declared value, the customs will pay attention to your parcel and there's high possibility and most likely you get tax. But sometimes you are lucky and they will let it pass. If it is low value items usually they just let it pass and save all the paperwork. If you are buying from a particular dealer in the US, email/call them to ask if they could mark the stuffs at xx amount. Some of them are fine with that and the bigger companies usually are not ok with that as they need to declare the value according to law.

And this usually is about the same case in other countries that i have been to and have tried ordering from US. Usually each country have a certain limit before they will consider it for tax. Some countries law state that all items being imported will be tax, but it's upto the customs officer too as they don't want too much paper work and will let some personal stuffs go thru if it's low value. And in some scary cases, some countries tax you 100%.

Ask the dealer to mark parcel as 'gift' and undervalue it.


Palmer from the Cups and Balls Museum jokingly says that you'll feel like Spiderman when you use the tarantula... so from that i am just guessing the tarantula might be a wrist attached gimmick.... LOL... looking forward to see if it really shoots out web :)

[lmaoatyou]

TA = True Astonishment by Paul Harris!

oh yeah, cheers dude lol.

Palmer from the Cups and Balls Museum jokingly says that you'll feel like Spiderman when you use the tarantula... so from that i am just guessing the tarantula might be a wrist attached gimmick.... LOL... looking forward to see if it really shoots out web

lol? that'd be too good to be true.. i can just imagine myself doing the spiderman gesture and a ring beginning to float. lol..

[fusion]

for some of the effects you need to anchor the IT to someplace (e.g. wall), so you'll do a magical gesture like spiderman, your index finger curl in and presses the middle of your palm, and some IT shoots out with some sticky wax and it sticks to anywhere of your liking :P LOL....

then some drunk and unsuspecting jerk walk pass and gets tangled in the IT and screw up your trick :)

[Mithos]

Its awesome....
sry I didn`t know how to put the vid ... so here is the link...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiM8dYqdoB0&eurl=http://www.magicshop.ch/videoclips/tarantula.php

[pimbo]

for some of the effects you need to anchor the IT to someplace (e.g. wall), so you'll do a magical gesture like spiderman, your index finger curl in and presses the middle of your palm, and some IT shoots out with some sticky wax and it sticks to anywhere of your liking :P LOL....

Now that would be awesome if you could just set things up like that.That is the magic of the future.

[pimbo]

There is a topic on this trick.
Anyway it seems that he is using hes own ring.

[Mithos]

yeah it seems so..

i saw that there is already a threat about this trick..
can somebody please tell me how to put a youtube vid . not just the link.
so that everyone can see it,..
sry for my bad english
thx

[traumatised-magic]

so if u saw there was already a thread why did u not just post in that instead of makin yet another post about it??

i'm goin to merge them both together anyway this time but in future dont just make a new thread cause u feel like it

and to embed videos open the youtube video and on the right hand side under the video users name there is a code that says embed next to it, copy and paste that code in the text box on here

[lmaoatyou]

for some of the effects you need to anchor the IT to someplace (e.g. wall), so you'll do a magical gesture like spiderman, your index finger curl in and presses the middle of your palm, and some IT shoots out with some sticky wax and it sticks to anywhere of your liking :P LOL....

then some drunk and unsuspecting jerk walk pass and gets tangled in the IT and screw up your trick

Lmao... :cool:

There is a topic on this trick.

yeah it seems so..

i saw that there is already a threat about this trick..


Wtf? What the hell's goin on..

so if u saw there was already a thread why did u not just post in that instead of makin yet another post about it??

and thank you.

still don't know wtf's going on... i'll chip in some other time when it's less confusing..

[Calbrit01]

You know I looked at the vid again, and it looks like Venice beach, where I saw him do this routine. The camera crew who were there got in real close to what he was doing, and so did I about 3 feet. Let me repeat myself, it was impressive, really impressive - I cant wait to get my unit, more so because seeing it live I know there is no camera cry (video enhanced disappointment) to come and cause try as I might I cant get anywhere close to the manipulation. I saw him do haunted deck and the glasses flip, the deck was with his loops, and the glasses he wrapped thread around one arm, standard stuff if you know what you are looking for, but jaw droppers for the crowd. Still a draw dropper for me was the ring - I know some people have a routine for spinning ring, but I still have not seen anything as impressive as Yigals.

Has anyone else ordered one for release date as it will be good to regroup and compare notes?

BTW anyone use the spider pen and gotten good with it? How does it compare with what's in the promo video?

How much better are the electric units in terms of what you can do with them against the elastic units i use?

[traumatised-magic]

Wtf? What the hell's goin on..





dont worry bout it, the guy a few posts above u decided he would make a new thread even tho he searched and found that there was already a topic started on this, so i just merged the 2 threads together so that we dont get fuckin loads fo threads about this one trick cloggin up the forum

[Josh Price]

I think this effect looks great.
I found this on E
Q: I already own Spider Pen. Is this similar?
A: This is a very different piece of equipment. You will enjoy owning both and performing with both.

[Twist Magic]

So, on penguin magic, their is a new magic trick by Yigal Mesika and it is a floating device. Said to be the best floating device ever. Can someone tell me how to do or how it works.

[pimbo]

The 1 of march and all your questions will maybe be awnsered or .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...................NOT!

[lmaoatyou]

dont worry bout it, the guy a few posts above u decided he would make a new thread even tho he searched and found that there was already a topic started on this, so i just merged the 2 threads together so that we dont get fuckin loads fo threads about this one trick cloggin up the forum

oh right cheers :)

Q: I already own Spider Pen. Is this similar?
A: This is a very different piece of equipment. You will enjoy owning both and performing with both.

Wow, very different? That's pretty conclusive to me then. Although i'm getting verrry curious as to how it's different and what it's gonna be like.. 4 days left. 4 days!

Btw can you give us a link to the E page where you got that quote from?

[Altai]

Been a while since i've been on...

This looks very, very good. I've kind of stayed away from invisible thread for a while but this is making me think twice.

[lmaoatyou]

Aaaaaah. You never shoulda left IT lol. Nah i'm kidding..

Btw I found the E link info:

Q: Do I need to wear any special clothing (like a sport coat) to perform Tarantula?
A: No special clothing is required. Mesika's clothing choices in the demo are purely for style.

Q: I already own Spider Pen. Is this similar?
A: This is a very different piece of equipment. You will enjoy owning both and performing with both.

[dankai]

I'll probably purchase Steve Fearson's MLS which has a version (if not the same thing) of Tarantula (click the link below and see the demo).


http://www.emagicsupply.com/master-levitation-system-p-43.html

Hmmmm

Tarantula.......$75 bucks
MLS..............$39 bucks (and includes other levitations)
Saving...........$36 bucks Priceless

[MagicMaddy]

I'll probably purchase Steve Fearson's MLS which has a version (if not the same thing) of Tarantula (click the link below and see the demo).


http://www.emagicsupply.com/master-levitation-system-p-43.html

Hmmmm

Tarantula.......$75 bucks
MLS..............$39 bucks (and includes other levitations)
Saving...........$36 bucks Priceless
Acually they,EMagicSupply,tricked you. I went through the whole process of buying MLS and it was $78 because it's a video/kit. I'll stick with Tarantula.

[Gapyy]

I'll probably purchase Steve Fearson's MLS which has a version (if not the same thing) of Tarantula (click the link below and see the demo).


http://www.emagicsupply.com/master-levitation-system-p-43.html

Hmmmm

Tarantula.......$75 bucks
MLS..............$39 bucks (and includes other levitations)
Saving...........$36 bucks Priceless

How can saving $36 be priceless lol hahah :D:D... Anyways i'm also staying with tarantula

[lmaoatyou]

I'll probably purchase Steve Fearson's MLS which has a version (if not the same thing) of Tarantula (click the link below and see the demo).


http://www.emagicsupply.com/master-l...stem-p-43.html

Hmmmm

Tarantula.......$75 bucks
MLS..............$39 bucks (and includes other levitations)
Saving...........$36 bucks Priceless

Haha, fair enough. But i like to go for the good quality ones and the ones i know won't fail. I'm used to working with YM's thread, so i'm sticking with his.

I've seen the demo for the MLS version. When you get it, tell us what it's like and we'll do likewise with the Tarantula :D

[pimbo]

I will proboably let a freind from the US buy it for me and send it by air-mail.

[lmaoatyou]

So now it's officially released?

Waiting for reviews!

[z0dak]

yeah, mee too. I guess we shal just have to wait and see.

[lmaoatyou]

Can somebody please post when they've got the Tarantula? That'd be great! :)

[jaka_10]

Yeah i'll post:) I think that i'll get it in 2 days:) i hope:) hehe:)

[screamokid4life]

Where is the cheapest place to buy this from. I want it really bad but I don't have a lot of cash.

[magick]

Where is the cheapest place to buy this from. I want it really bad but I don't have a lot of cash.

it's gonna be about the same price anywhere you look.......i guess if you shop around you may be able to save a few bucks........but you arent gonna get it cheap.

[Burning_K]

I would like to now if you can buy any refills...... Becaus I highly doubt that you don't need any. For the spider pen it's everywhere but I haven't found any for the tarantula....
AND I'd like to know if you can really wear whatever you want, because I red the ellusionist page but I did not find the part with the clothing.

[magick]

I would like to now if you can buy any refills...... Becaus I highly doubt that you don't need any. For the spider pen it's everywhere but I haven't found any for the tarantula....
AND I'd like to know if you can really wear whatever you want, because I red the ellusionist page but I did not find the part with the clothing.

it uses the same refills as the spider pen.......

[lmaoatyou]

it uses the same refills as the spider pen.......

Question about this statement.. Not to be rude Magick, at all. But how do you know this?

And does this mean that the thread is exactly the same as the Spider-Pen thread?

....?

[traumatised-magic]

i would say the thread is exaclty the same.....the thread isnt really the whole tarantula thing, the tarantula is the reel its self not the thread...if u could make ur own i'm sure u could put any type of thread u want inside it

[magick]

Question about this statement.. Not to be rude Magick, at all. But how do you know this?

And does this mean that the thread is exactly the same as the Spider-Pen thread?

....?
i know because i read the add....i didnt just watch the video, and start asking questions.

here is the add from hank lee's magic factory....


Tarantula

You’re in a normal setting: A coffee shop; A classroom; Even a party. You borrow a friend’s ring and hold it very fairly – nothing to hide. Suddenly, you give the ring a gentle horizontal spin and slowly move your hands away. The ring is now floating. Imagine that it continues to spin, without you touching it! The ring hovers up and down above your hand, from one hand to another, and slowly lands on your own finger! Instantly repeat it, and end up with the ring floating onto the spectator’s own finger! Sounds impossible? But, believe it or not, it is very easy to master, thank to the Tarantula! This levitation has it all. It’s fun, mysterious, edgy, and packs a strong emotional impact.
The Tarantula is a unique gimmick that has shattered the conventional wisdom of what reels look like and accomplish. This stealth utility device allows you to easily master levitation and animation. You can fearlessly perform completely surrounded with the Tarantula, and the preparation only takes a second. Literally, you have the power at your fingertips, and can show your hands empty at any time. The Tarantula allows you to perform countless effects that have never been seen or done before. The Tarantula comes with an explanation DVD, and everything you need to get started right away.
Every detail of the Tarantula Motorized Invisible Thread Reel is taught step-by-step.
You will learn new, incredible effects, including: Hovering, New Haunted Pack, Magnetic Money, Magic Pen and Floating Dollar Bill.
The Tarantula uses the Spider Pen Thread Spool and a common button cell battery. It is designed not to tangle, easy to fix and replace the thread spool and battery, it is virtually invisible and you can do some extraordinary levitating or floating of objects with it.
If you use the Spider Pen, Loops, Invisible Thread or ITR then you will use and love the Tarantula.

Available for shipment in early March. Pre-order now and we’ll pay the shipping anywhere in the US and ½ the Air Post everywhere else!

[lmaoatyou]

i know because i read the add....i didnt just watch the video, and start asking questions.

Your referring to me? Right?

I emphasised myself quite clearly that i didn't mean it in a rude way. Traum answered my question and i was quite satisfied. When i knew you'd replied i clicked the thread to read it and all i got was an opening statement that was quite rude to me. What's wrong? Did i say anything wrong to you earlier? Because if i did, apologies.

Thanks for your reply.

[magick]

Your referring to me? Right?

I emphasised myself quite clearly that i didn't mean it in a rude way. Traum answered my question and i was quite satisfied. When i knew you'd replied i clicked the thread to read it and all i got was an opening statement that was quite rude to me. What's wrong? Did i say anything wrong to you earlier? Because if i did, apologies.

Thanks for your reply.

no, it was my bad.....i should have phrased things a little less harsh.

sorry.

[lmaoatyou]

Hehe, it's okay mate :cool:

It's just i was confused about this. I've also read the same advert as you did, many times. But i've also read E's add. And they say:

The system is so invisible, it works inches from someone's face.

That's what i'm confused about, because they say it like the threads completely different and it's a whole new thread that really is invisible..

So what's the thread of the spider pen like? I've never used the spider pen. How good is its invisibility?

[magick]

Hehe, it's okay mate :cool:

It's just i was confused about this. I've also read the same advert as you did, many times. But i've also read E's add. And they say:

The system is so invisible, it works inches from someone's face. That's what i'm confused about, because they say it like the threads completely different and it's a whole new thread that really is invisible..

So what's the thread of the spider pen like? I've never used the spider pen. How good is its invisibility?

if your floating a ring using this method the thread is in motion all the time because of the way it rides the outside of the ring....

spun by morgan strebler is the same way,,,you can float the coin inches in front of the spectator face and you cant see the thread.

because its not hanging straight down, it's rideing the outside edge of the coin.

[lmaoatyou]

aaahhh i seee.. So obviously your gonna need to attach the thread to the ring with some wax or something? I haven't got that much XP with ITRs

:confused:

[traumatised-magic]

yes u need to attach it to the ring in some way...weather it be wax or actually tiein it to the ring....usein ur own ring tiein it in place maybe an idea but then it becomes less examinable. but then tryin to hide the wax enough so it isnt noticable when spinning causes a problem too

[lmaoatyou]

ahhh damn. so you need to stick the end of the thread with wax to the wall as well i suppose?

Because if you do i don't see how the hell you do it descretely; walking up to a wall and touching it for no reason seems odd lol.

[Eman88]

Is it worth it? Or is it just about as good as spider pen?

[Mr.Xcitement]

If your wanting the Tarantula set you can save yourself about $10 if you like on eBay! Look for the name jimfromsac this is a ITR shop out of California and he has several on eBay at a best offer. I offered $65 and shipping is $5 so a total of $70. Just a thought for those who really want it and looking to save a few pennies.

[traumatised-magic]

ahhh damn. so you need to stick the end of the thread with wax to the wall as well i suppose?

Because if you do i don't see how the hell you do it descretely; walking up to a wall and touching it for no reason seems odd lol.

of course not the other end is inside the reel......basically ur main anchor point is the reel that u keep hidden on ur shirt somewhere....the spider pen was designed to look like a pen so could be put inside ur shirt pocket for example, the other end that u pull out is what u attach to the ring or what ever u intend on movin/floating...then when ur done u release the wax from the object and the thread goes back inside the reel out the way

[lmaoatyou]

ooo okay im startin to understand now. but then how do you make things float? if the only thread is coming from the pen to the object (on the table for example), then how can you make things rise and fall? because won't it go straight to the pen in your pocket?

[traumatised-magic]

ooo okay im startin to understand now. but then how do you make things float? if the only thread is coming from the pen to the object (on the table for example), then how can you make things rise and fall? because won't it go straight to the pen in your pocket?

u make things float by hangin the thread over ur hands.....u control everythin by movin ur hands, just like u would if u only had a single piece of thread....in most cases the thread goes from behind the ear or the shirt collar and hangs down, then u attach the otehr end to the object u wish to float and u use ur hands to make it move same with any type of reel only instead of havein it attached to ur self in some way the thread is on a spool that can unwind and wind in thread so u have a large amount and is set up as soon as u put it on...no need to be fumbling about and no worry of breakin the thread between performances

[lmaoatyou]

oooh! it's clearin up now..:cool:

but how do you lift things and walk away from it while its still suspended in the air? ive seen people make things lift, walk away, make it fall again and float from one place to their hands, or from one place to another? hows this done?

[Eman88]

Ok i have never used an itr do you think the tarantula is something good to start with?

[firedemon070]

depends, u could start out with regular IT if u havent tried handling one of those before. the ITR may require a little more timing, and a little more experience. which means, yes, u'll need to practice. but eh, i'd get it if i havent touched an ITR before. i mean, none of them r cheap anyways, u have no alternatives to learn the ITR

[lmaoatyou]

but how do you lift things and walk away from it while its still suspended in the air? ive seen people make things lift, walk away, make it fall again and float from one place to their hands, or from one place to another? hows this done?

Can anyone else help me out with this question? It's the last thing i need to know about reels lmao.

[magick]

Can anyone else help me out with this question? It's the last thing i need to know about reels lmao.

for this the thread is anchored to a wall or whatever and the floated object is attached to the horizontal thread.

[lmaoatyou]

ohh okay, i see now. And do you use wax to get the thread from the reel and anchor it to the wall?

Question about the Tarantula regarding this: Do you think (or know?) the Tarantula will still use wax to anchor?

[A.C.E]

ohh okay, i see now. And do you use wax to get the thread from the reel and anchor it to the wall?

Question about the Tarantula regarding this: Do you think (or know?) the Tarantula will still use wax to anchor?
it's thread.... what else are you going to anchor it with lol

[lmaoatyou]

fair point :cool:

[lmaoatyou]

But what i still don't understand is how, with the s.pen for example, you would get wax on the end of the thread to anchor it to a wall discretely for float effects?

[magick]

But what i still don't understand is how, with the s.pen for example, you would get wax on the end of the thread to anchor it to a wall discretely for float effects?


actually its pretty easy to stick a ball of wax to a wall or what ever and then move three or four feet away...

you can do the hook up and then perform a few other effect while hooked up and then perform the levitation.

just requires a little audience management. and a lot of practice to look natural and confortable.

[BrothaWolf]

Mine shipped today...

[Junyert]

It ships for me tomorrow...:) Im excited.. but nervous at the same time.. I don't want to get let down. but I hope not. plus, if Magick wants one then it must be pretty good.. haha ;) ill be writing a review after I receive it, and then another after I have used it on the field.

[magick]

It ships for me tomorrow...:) Im excited.. but nervous at the same time.. I don't want to get let down. but I hope not. plus, if Magick wants one then it must be pretty good.. haha ;) ill be writing a review after I receive it, and then another after I have used it on the field.

I HOPE THERE IS AT LEAST A COUPLE WEEKS BETWEEN THOSE 2 POSTS.

[Junyert]

I HOPE THERE IS AT LEAST A COUPLE WEEKS BETWEEN THOSE 2 POSTS.

if not more. yea i want to get comfortable with it. :)

[magick]

if not more. yea i want to get comfortable with it. :)

i'm glad to hear that.....

[lmaoatyou]

actually its pretty easy to stick a ball of wax to a wall or what ever and then move three or four feet away...

you can do the hook up and then perform a few other effect while hooked up and then perform the levitation.

just requires a little audience management. and a lot of practice to look natural and confortable.

aaahhh! i seee :) Okay i understand lol.

Mine shipped today...

It ships for me tomorrow... Im excited..

Omg! :D

ill be writing a review after I receive it, and then another after I have used it on the field.

goooood good. we'll all be waiting for those valuable reviews. posting them on here or what? if not let us now where...

[Eman88]

They're partnered with e so they have all the good decks and stuff i haft to reserve a tarantula.

[lmaoatyou]

anyone got the Tarantula yet? somebody must have!

[Junyert]

anyone got the Tarantula yet? somebody must have!

I got mine an hour ago from UPS... im watching the dvd now... IT IS AMAZING.. i was worried id have buyers remorse after it.. but i am in love with it right now... i'll post a pre-review later with pictures..... OMG im gonna go play... :)

[Junyert]

ok now i need help with it.. grrrr. anyone?

[magick]

ok now i need help with it.. grrrr. anyone?

what kind of help

[lmaoatyou]

I got mine an hour ago from UPS... im watching the dvd now... IT IS AMAZING.. i was worried id have buyers remorse after it.. but i am in love with it right now... i'll post a pre-review later with pictures..... OMG im gonna go play...

ok now i need help with it.. grrrr. anyone?

Lol, make sure you have fun :D I was scared that i'd get that "buyer's remorse" too, but as you haven't got it yet i don't think i will. I'm happy your happy with it, makes me wanna get it even more.

And what kinda help? Since i don't have it yet, Magick will almost deffo answer your calls :cool:

[Junyert]

Lol, make sure you have fun :D I was scared that i'd get that "buyer's remorse" too, but as you haven't got it yet i don't think i will. I'm happy your happy with it, makes me wanna get it even more.

And what kinda help? Since i don't have it yet, Magick will almost deffo answer your calls :cool:

well im a little down right now. i was trying to set up for the ring effect for the tarantula and i broke the thread... now the spool comes with 25 feet so im still ok. also the tarantula uses the same spools as the spider pen. so i can buy more anyways... now heres my problem either im doing it way wrong or the motor on this thing seems to be weak. i cannot get it to even lift a dollar.. nothing more than the weight of the wax it came with.. its almost as if the battery is almost dead... could this be since i just pulled it out of the box? maybe they sent me a dead battery idk. cause yigal on the dvd is lifting rings and dollars with no problem.. but with mine the dollar just hangs there and will not rise.. :( any help from those that are familiar with ITRs?

[magick]

well im a little down right now. i was trying to set up for the ring effect for the tarantula and i broke the thread... now the spool comes with 25 feet so im still ok. also the tarantula uses the same spools as the spider pen. so i can buy more anyways... now heres my problem either im doing it way wrong or the motor on this thing seems to be weak. i cannot get it to even lift a dollar.. nothing more than the weight of the wax it came with.. its almost as if the battery is almost dead... could this be since i just pulled it out of the box? maybe they sent me a dead battery idk. cause yigal on the dvd is lifting rings and dollars with no problem.. but with mine the dollar just hangs there and will not rise.. :( any help from those that are familiar with ITRs?

i'd start by replacing the battery.....just go out and get a new one.

[Junyert]

i'd start by replacing the battery.....just go out and get a new one.

its a watch battery number 389 or L1131. but other than that problem im having i really like it. so far.... i'll get some pictures up later...

[magick]

its a watch battery number 389 or L1131. but other than that problem im having i really like it. so far.... i'll get some pictures up later...

right, it's a watch battery.....they sell them at wal-mart, radio shack, jewlery stores, and tons of other places.

what do you mean you really lilke it so far......you just said the battery is dead and its not working.....sound to me like you haven't used it yet.

[Junyert]

right, it's a watch battery.....they sell them at wal-mart, radio shack, jewlery stores, and tons of other places.

what do you mean you really lilke it so far......you just said the battery is dead and its not working.....sound to me like you haven't used it yet.

well i want to give it the benefit of the doubt.. the dvd yigal makes it soo graceful and well if this had just a little bit more pull then i'll really be in love with it. i realize that i probably am not doing everything right yet. and im not very good yet. but the over all concept is great to me. it fits well and is hidden well in my finger palm. its basically a real that fits inside a finger shell you finger palm with your middle finger.

[cam2413]

i got it and mine broke in the first hour i just dont reccomened it it is just to fragile for torrential use

[magick]

i got it and mine broke in the first hour i just dont reccomened it it is just to fragile for torrential use

not sure exactly what you mean by that.....


what part of it did you break...

[Junyert]

ok i just went up to my local walgreens and picked up a new energizer batter and this thing works like a charm... i did the ring levitation from one hand to the other and even onto my little brothers finger.. the great thing is that you can even borrow a spectators ring, given that is a band ring and not rediculously heavy. my initial thoughts on this thing were great although i broke a bunch of the threat and got a dead battery with it... but after fixing the battery and setting up the thread again.. this thing works great. im actually very pleased.. i was gonna put pictures up of it tonight but thats not really gonna work out so i'll prolly have them up tomorrow. but overall, other than the dead batter and broken thread (most likely my own stupid fault) this thing is worth the money i paid for it. gosh im excited to use it. im anxious what your thoughts are. i will do a more thorough and in depth review as i am more comfortable with it but let me know any questions you may have on it.

[magick]

ok i just went up to my local walgreens and picked up a new energizer batter and this thing works like a charm... i did the ring levitation from one hand to the other and even onto my little brothers finger.. the great thing is that you can even borrow a spectators ring, given that is a band ring and not rediculously heavy. my initial thoughts on this thing were great although i broke a bunch of the threat and got a dead battery with it... but after fixing the battery and setting up the thread again.. this thing works great. im actually very pleased.. i was gonna put pictures up of it tonight but thats not really gonna work out so i'll prolly have them up tomorrow. but overall, other than the dead batter and broken thread (most likely my own stupid fault) this thing is worth the money i paid for it. gosh im excited to use it. im anxious what your thoughts are. i will do a more thorough and in depth review as i am more comfortable with it but let me know any questions you may have on it.


i look forward to getting a look at the thing...

[Junyert]

i look forward to getting a look at the thing...

i'll be sure to get pictures up as soon as i can. i think why i like it so much is the fact that it has virtually endless possibilities as to what you can do with it. its not just a 2 or 3 effect gimmick. the ring effect is my favorite however the simple little dollar/card raise trick is soo easy and, its all around great. delicate but great.

[ntroberts]

Hm... sounds very interesting! Looking forward to it, Junyert!

[lmaoatyou]

i'll be sure to get pictures up as soon as i can. i think why i like it so much is the fact that it has virtually endless possibilities as to what you can do with it. its not just a 2 or 3 effect gimmick. the ring effect is my favorite however the simple little dollar/card raise trick is soo easy and, its all around great. delicate but great.

Really glad you got your battery sorted out! I was gonna reply as soon as you posted your problem but had to go out - i didn't even have time to log out lol.

If you still think that it should be fast, then there's something else you're doing. This device is meant to be fast, really fast when required.
Make sure that you're not slowing down the thread retraction with your fingers or hands. Because the friction can cause the retraction to be slower than normal.

[lilryguy5]

So some pictures of the reel please? I'm not sure if I want to get this yet. Help me out please. My birthday is the 18th, so i would love a review by then. Thanks

[professor808]

it is built into the palm of a finger, so you finger palm the device and it blends in like a thumb tip

[magick]

it is built into the palm of a finger, so you finger palm the device and it blends in like a thumb tip

like a sanada gimmick....only for 1 finger.

[AceOSpades]

like a sanada gimmick....only for 1 finger.

yes it goes on your index or middle finger.....that guy 4ce posted some pics

[lmaoatyou]

Yeah i've seen 4ce's pics, they look great to me. I think it's a fantastic idea, and as long as you're good with audience management and control then you're good.

I've heard that you can adjust the device to suit you, e.g. cutting off the plastic to make it smaller, or applying make-up to the device.

However, applying make-up to change its colour is not necessary in my opinion, because to me the insides of everybody's fingers are more or less the same colour.

Question: The wax on the thread goes back into the reel after a performance right? How long does a ball of wax last?

[lilryguy5]

Does anyone know how long the gimmick is? I have seen the pics but it's tough to tell?

[magick]

Does anyone know how long the gimmick is? I have seen the pics but it's tough to tell?

large enough for an adult to use confortably.....more than likely, too big for your 12 year old hands......my guess is it's to big for you to hide.

[lilryguy5]

large enough for an adult to use confortably.....more than likely, too big for your 12 year old hands......my guess is it's to big for you to hide.

Ok, thanks but i have noticed a comment that said you can cut it. Is that right?

[kobe45]

i got it and mine broke in the first hour i just dont reccomened it it is just to fragile for torrential use
<HR style="COLOR: #990000" SIZE=1> DUE TO COMPLICATIONS WITH THE TARANTULA GIMMICK BEYOND OUR CONTROL
The sale of Tarantula is being halted indefinitely. All unworkable gimmicks will be replaced when returned to Ellusionist (please contact customer service for an RMA #).
Our apologies for delays caused. This is an unforeseen error on the manufacturer’s part. When the quality of Tarantula is no longer in question, we will reopen the product for sale on this page.

[magick]

Ok, thanks but i have noticed a comment that said you can cut it. Is that right?

you can shorten it slightly.....but you cant mak it less wide....

[lilryguy5]

you can shorten it slightly.....but you cant mak it less wide....

ok thanks. i will think about getting it.

[lmaoatyou]

But the thing is, as long as you're good at concealing things like that you're okay. Because what I think is that if someone thinks you're acting suspicious with that hand, they'll tend to casually take a closer look at that hand. When they do they'll see nothing but fingers lol.

That being said, don't be a fruitcake and act as if you're holding something. Casual movements will do.

[BrothaWolf]

<HR style="COLOR: #990000" SIZE=1> DUE TO COMPLICATIONS WITH THE TARANTULA GIMMICK BEYOND OUR CONTROL
The sale of Tarantula is being halted indefinitely. All unworkable gimmicks will be replaced when returned to Ellusionist (please contact customer service for an RMA #).
Our apologies for delays caused. This is an unforeseen error on the manufacturer’s part. When the quality of Tarantula is no longer in question, we will reopen the product for sale on this page.

Mine came yesterday and DOESNT work.... havent tried a new battery yet Does NOT use same battery as my spider pen... I had the spider pen replacement battery 6 pack... was gonna try them but they are 2 big oh and 3 had already exploded in my NEW pack...... :mad:

[lmaoatyou]

Mine came yesterday and DOESNT work.... havent tried a new battery yet Does NOT use same battery as my spider pen... I had the spider pen replacement battery 6 pack... was gonna try them but they are 2 big oh and 3 had already exploded in my NEW pack......

Wow, wtf. That actually does sound like a battery problem. But i thought the battery was the same as the Pen's battery? Oh well. I'm confused...

I'm pretty sure it's the battery though. If not, id be quite worried.

[lilryguy5]

But the thing is, as long as you're good at concealing things like that you're okay. Because what I think is that if someone thinks you're acting suspicious with that hand, they'll tend to casually take a closer look at that hand. When they do they'll see nothing but fingers lol.

That being said, don't be a fruitcake and act as if you're holding something. Casual movements will do.

lol ok thanks you make a good point:)

[lmaoatyou]

Hehe, no problem :o

[lmaoatyou]

So a question:

Does the Tarantula use the same battery as the spider pen? Or different?

I KNOW this has been discussed loads of times, but there are also loads of different replies and i need a conclusive answer lol.

[jaka_10]

I have it now!:) And it is AWESOME! :D really! Battery is not the same as in spider pen:)

[lmaoatyou]

Wooot!!! I'm soo glad you like it, i like it when people say that about this because it tells me that it must be good.

Thanks for the info about the battery.

Anyone have the exact model of the battery so i can get one in advance? Thanks.

[tradingtricks_]

did anyone figure out if it's just the battery that's causing the problems ? is that why sales have been halted ?

[Mr.Xcitement]

I just got mine the other day and was pissed after it stop working after about three trys of learning to use it. I went to Walgreens and snagged up a 389 battery and now it works like a champ!

The handling is easy to get use to and I have huge hands which helps for hinding somethings so I can't speak for small hand peeps. The illusions seem to be endless and the video is put together well.

You should have seen the look on my wifes face when I made the ring drop down on her finger :)



I have had no problem with mine other than the battery it came with. Other than that I just have been figuring out what my weight limit is I can push to use this item but that has nothing to do with the item itself!

[lmaoatyou]

Wow :D

Okay so can anybody please give me the exact model of the battery so i can go out and get one? Thanks.

[lilryguy5]

Hey guys. Most of you know i am only 12 but the tarantula fits. I showed my dad and he never saw it. Its great. Although mine doesn't sit still it falls. like the thread? Is that a problem? Also the battery model is LR1130 ZHB? Thats on the battery?

[Mr.Xcitement]

Go out and get you an Energizer Battery 389 they work like a champ! Here is what it looks like . . . . 272

[BrothaWolf]

I will try a new battery before I send it back. Contacted E today to get my RMA # and they wrote back and wanted to know what was wrong with it... ?!?!?!?!? They also want me to send a picture of it... ?!?!?!?!?!
Here is the kicker... the signature on the bottom of the email they sent me...

"Tarantula is available NOW! Get it quick!

http://www.ellusionist.com/product/accessories/additional+-+other/tarantula+by+yigal+mesika.do "

:mad:

[lmaoatyou]

Hey guys. Most of you know i am only 12 but the tarantula fits. I showed my dad and he never saw it. Its great. Although mine doesn't sit still it falls. like the thread? Is that a problem? Also the battery model is LR1130 ZHB? Thats on the battery?

Good to know it fits you! No worries there then, thanks for the battery model. Explain more about this falling problem? and the thread?


Go out and get you an Energizer Battery 389 they work like a champ!

Thanks very much, ill get this one too :D

Here is the kicker... the signature on the bottom of the email they sent me...

"Tarantula is available NOW! Get it quick!

Hang on, so does this mean that its available again?

[BrothaWolf]

Good to know it fits you! No worries there then, thanks for the battery model. Explain more about this falling problem? and the thread?




Thanks very much, ill get this one too :D


Hang on, so does this mean that its available again?

NOOOOO its not available thats what makes this so laughable...

[Calbrit01]

Ok I have played with my Tarantula for a couple of weeks now, and overall I like it, its ingenious and nearly undectectable. I have spun the ring from hand to hand, and no one has seen the device as of yet. You can trim the length and and expand the width and there is enough room between the mechanisim and the shell to insert padding for those thin fingers.
It feels comfortable to wear, and you soon forget its there and can concentrate on the effect. For me, its the overhead hookup that makes the ring effect, coupled with the device allowing undectectable control from your hand - subtle movements with your hand and head translate into some dramatic effects.

The balance of the motor is good - especicially with the dollar bill thus: Just dropping the dollar bill ( also works ok with a five pound note for our brit collegues) the motor has enough minimal resitance to give the impression of a bill floating to the ground, adding to the illusion of nothing being attached, so when you reel it in, its quite unexpected and a jaw dropper.

Not really done too much else with it, as I am currently fixing my biggest gripe with it, the reel itself. The thread became tangled at about 15 ft, and I had to attempt rethread which was ok with my thread, but the original thread is stronger. Hopefully when I figure out the correct thread, out of my different types the issue will be resolved. I dont really want to keep on buying spools, if I am going to have problems at $10.00 a shot.

[Mr.Xcitement]

I wanted to say something about the falling problem someone mentioned. It only becomes a problem when you try using too much weight. Try out different things and see how much it holds you would be surprised! Also it shows in the video how to pick the length you want to work with and stop it there without it dropping more and that is as far at it drops! With different illusions this becomes very handy and opens the door to so many other ideas! Not to mention it helps prevent waste.

[lmaoatyou]

NOOOOO its not available thats what makes this so laughable...

LOL, damn im slow...

Calbrit, that's excellent feedback! I read all of it and it makes me wanna get it more (aint got it yet lol). But that's what i'm scared about - the problem you mentioned with tangling...

I do not want to ever get it tangled (although you might think it's inevitable), but i think if i use it correctly i can stop it from happening. So do you have any advice on how to stop it tangling, and if tangled, how easy/hard is it to retrieve the end of it again?

Thanks :D

[Mr.Xcitement]

lmaoatyou this item is awesome and if you work at it there is no tangle. At least for me the only reason it tried to get tangled was because I pulled out like 20ft to do an illusion for fun. As for it breaking that happens and how often depends on the person. If it break getting it ready is as easy as tieing a shoe. I think it took me 2 minutes and I have done this 3 times. I have been breaking it often as I have been pushing the amount of weight this thing holds. Hope this helps some. If you are thinking about getting one and are an eBayer look at my post I put up in this thread of a guy I bought off of in California they sell nothing but IT and ITR!

[lmaoatyou]

lmaoatyou this item is awesome and if you work at it there is no tangle. At least for me the only reason it tried to get tangled was because I pulled out like 20ft to do an illusion for fun. As for it breaking that happens and how often depends on the person. If it break getting it ready is as easy as tieing a shoe. I think it took me 2 minutes and I have done this 3 times. I have been breaking it often as I have been pushing the amount of weight this thing holds. Hope this helps some. If you are thinking about getting one and are an eBayer look at my post I put up in this thread of a guy I bought off of in California they sell nothing but IT and ITR!

Thanks a lot Mr.Xcitement for your reply, its really helpful stuff. I was just worried if it was a lot of hassle trying to get the end of the thread if it broke and then that idea kinda put me off a bit. But your reply relieves me a bit, so thanks. Let me know what the heaviest thing you've managed to move is!

[Calbrit01]

Some more feedback on the tangling - I don't think I explained myself very well - let me make amends.

I have no tangling problems actually using the unit per say. You let out enough to reach the floor from your waist, then tie it off as per the DVD. This gives you the control and the repeatabilty you need. Point of fact, I was shopping for rings for the effect at a local Mall, and did the ring spin twice in two differnet stores with the same length, no problem - just wanted to make clear there is ( or I havent found ) a tangling problem. IMHO I dont think you will be embarresed in a live setting. The tangling I was refering to was as you get further into the reel. To me it seemed I only got about 3 lengths out ( i.e 3 breaks and resets if that makes sense ) before the rest of the reel became useless. Now I think about it more, I must have only got about 9 ft out before it was inorperable.

Anyway, today I went shopping again, this time for "Wooley Nylon Thread". I cut off around 25ft ( which is what the manufactures of Tarantula claim is on the reel), laid it out on the floor, striped out one thread from the end and attached it to the reel, then placed the reel in the unit. I then used the unit to wind the thread onto the reel. The whole operation took me about 30 mins, which is a no brainer in terms of my time invested, as it looks like I have around 1000 yards of unstripped thread, a bit more ecomonical than $10.00 for a 25ft reel ! Which brings me on to my next asside - there obviously was not 25ft on the original reel, as when I would the new one on, the reel is much more full. The only reason I may buy a replacement reel, is so I have a ready to go backup just in case.

As for the question of how easy is it to get the thread out, I have to say not too bad - the usual blowing down the barrel seems to work 50% of the time, the rest of the time I have been able to fish it out with fingernails.


It is an expensive piece of kit, but I think its worth the money when you consider the engineering that has gone into it and the relatively limited market. If you are on a limited budget though and want to do some of the neat effects like the ring spinning then you can achieve similar results manually or with a cheap ITR.

[lmaoatyou]

Some more feedback on the tangling - I don't think I explained myself very well - let me make amends.

I have no tangling problems actually using the unit per say. You let out enough to reach the floor from your waist, then tie it off as per the DVD. This gives you the control and the repeatabilty you need. Point of fact, I was shopping for rings for the effect at a local Mall, and did the ring spin twice in two differnet stores with the same length, no problem - just wanted to make clear there is ( or I havent found ) a tangling problem. IMHO I dont think you will be embarresed in a live setting. The tangling I was refering to was as you get further into the reel. To me it seemed I only got about 3 lengths out ( i.e 3 breaks and resets if that makes sense ) before the rest of the reel became useless. Now I think about it more, I must have only got about 9 ft out before it was inorperable.

Anyway, today I went shopping again, this time for "Wooley Nylon Thread". I cut off around 25ft ( which is what the manufactures of Tarantula claim is on the reel), laid it out on the floor, striped out one thread from the end and attached it to the reel, then placed the reel in the unit. I then used the unit to wind the thread onto the reel. The whole operation took me about 30 mins, which is a no brainer in terms of my time invested, as it looks like I have around 1000 yards of unstripped thread, a bit more ecomonical than $10.00 for a 25ft reel ! Which brings me on to my next asside - there obviously was not 25ft on the original reel, as when I would the new one on, the reel is much more full. The only reason I may buy a replacement reel, is so I have a ready to go backup just in case.

As for the question of how easy is it to get the thread out, I have to say not too bad - the usual blowing down the barrel seems to work 50% of the time, the rest of the time I have been able to fish it out with fingernails.


It is an expensive piece of kit, but I think its worth the money when you consider the engineering that has gone into it and the relatively limited market. If you are on a limited budget though and want to do some of the neat effects like the ring spinning then you can achieve similar results manually or with a cheap ITR.

Excellent! This more or less makes convinced that that problem with tangling isn't as bad as i thought it was. I agree with you making your own reel and everything, but the problem with me is that i honestly cba lol. I'd just buy another reel and it would solve any problems without the headache. I agree with the expense of the kit, and i also agree with you that it's worth it (by the sounds of it), but i believe with a lot of time, practice and patience that it can be mastered correctly.
Thanks again.

[Mr.Xcitement]

So it's been a few weeks and yes I am still on the same spool that came with it! If you tie it off like it shows in the video then you can do objects like credit cards, money, even a full piece of paper across a smooth surface. I am a school teacher where once in awhile I break out magic for the kids to see how I'm doing and see what reactions I get. One illusion I think is fun is using a kids powerade or gaterade cap. If you screw it off do a few things and then screw it back on it blows them away! Ping Pong ball is fun also!

This is a great little device I only wish it had more power to pull items! If you have one toss up some cool things you can do! If you don't have one get one!

[Eman88]

So what were the reasons it broke because I am looking into buying it and I would rather not haft to hassle with returning and getting a new blah blah blah... http://cgi.ebay.com/Tarantula-(With-DVD)-by-Yigal-Mesika-Magic-Trick_W0QQitemZ360141651640QQcmdZViewItem this is what I am looking at.

[Calbrit01]

Ok, my second reel had the same problem about 10 feet in. To my mind the groove the thread sits in is too narrow, my other ITR does a much better job of spreading the tread along a longer length of reel. But I would like to know if anyone else has experienced simalar problems?

[firedemon070]

i was told the tarantula is MUCH more fragile than usual ITRs, is that true? they mentioned about how ITRs are much easier to fix, than the tarantula.

[Renegade]

i was told the tarantula is MUCH more fragile than usual ITRs, is that true? they mentioned about how ITRs are much easier to fix, than the tarantula.

I have dropped it soooo many times.. i think it's good. Ha.

And it get's tangled so easily if your wearing head phones lol.

[lmaoatyou]

Lmao, try using it without headphones :p

Might be more effective.

And i sincerely hope that it's not fragile at all.. I was under the impression that it's one of the most sturdy devices yet.

[lmaoatyou]

W00t! Okay guys, I've finally got one, and so far i'm impressed.. The only thing that stops me from getting it out and experimenting more is the fact that i must get a new battery before i do anything else with it.

A question for those who own it; where do you store it? do you keep it with you in your pocket? keep it in a box?

Thanks.

[Mr.Xcitement]

I just keep it in the pocket until I am ready to use and slide the hand in and put it on! Just make sure your pocket is clean and nothing gets on the wax. As for durability I have dropped mine during practice many times trying dumb things and it's all good. Worst thing I have had to do it pop the battery back in place. I made a video but don't know how to post to get some help on things?

[lmaoatyou]

oh right okay then. cool. but the thing is, how clean can your pocket get?! i mean, after all its a pocket. there'll be dust and crap in there and you can't have a 100% clean pocket right?

im sorry but i dunno about the vid :confused:

[Mr.Xcitement]

Your right the pocket is never 100% clean but it does work for me. It's also a nice way to get rid of the gimmick when people are busy looking at the object you were moving around and just handed to them!

[lmaoatyou]

very true :D

[lmaoatyou]

K guys ive got a question. I do the Haunted Pack and the card shoots out (sometimes).

How do i make it spin and shoot out like in the trailer? and in the performance videos in the DVD?

[firedemon070]

try doing it by putting wax away from center, so with enough force it will jump out and spin around, but im not sure how to give it much more velocity.

[Mr.Xcitement]

firedemon070 said it right! I mean yes he shows you in the video what to do but other than that it just takes practice I guess! Good luck.

[lmaoatyou]

ahhh thanks guys, ill be sure to try it! :D

[kostis12345]

Guys,has anyone with long hair tried the ring float?A friend of mine told me how it works and I'm affraid that the wax will stick in my hair..

[firedemon070]

it wont, the wax will only come in contact with ur hair when u retract the thread back in for a clean up.

[kostis12345]

That's what I meant :P

[lmaoatyou]

not sure to be honest. ive got medium hair and i can't do the clean-up right for some reason. i retract (with the wax as well) and the wax stops at my hair but it doesnt stick. ive gotta manually take the whole hookup off of my head and then retract. wtf is going on there...

[kostis12345]

if you reverse the moves ?pretend to scratch your neck and your reverse the moves,when you are above your head click the switch and tell me what happens.

[firedemon070]

yeah i get what u guys mean actually, my hair is kinda long for a guy nd the wax does stop in my hair, but what i do is sometimes i just bring my hand back up to my head and while keep pressing the retracting button so the wax and thread can come right back up whenever i hit the right poisition, but the thing that pisses me off the most is how my hair moves while the ring spins xD so i like to do this outdoors cuz it looks like a breeze is causing it

EDIT:
by the way, is it just me, or is the slit a real pain in the ass?

[lmaoatyou]

Yeah the slit is a real pain. Im paranoid to see if the 'web' is still in the slit otherwise it'll tangle.. Aaanyways, i havent tried doing the reverse move, the pretending to scratch your neck thing. Could you just tell me lol, does it work? Because im buying another spool and if that one goes im gonna chuck the whole thing out my window..

[con_de_man]

its not the spider pen or pen of any sort its a finger piece with a reel and invisible thread and when u put pressure on it it will retract

[Magicman1204]

We already know that know. This thread is a few months old

[Preformer15]

Someone actually posted pictures of the device....just search up, "Tarantula Pictures"...