Catch by Ben Seidman

[ksm091322]

anyone know how to do this?

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[professor808]

It is hard to say how this works, because we are not seeing all that is at work here.

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The Effect

From Ben Seidman, the creator of iVanish and magic consultant for Mindfreak on A&E.

Fan the cards and ask your spectator to concentrate on one card. THEY shuffle the deck and watch in disbelief as you throw the cards into the air, and catch their selection out of thin air!

What makes this routine so unbeatable? Your hand is completely empty before you catch their card. This is the ultimate pack-small play-big trick!

The props are included to create your own gimmick.

5 different handlings are explained to perform CATCH

* on stage
* on the street
* surrounded
* in short sleeves
* impromptu



Each method has its own unique advantages. Ben has used all of them to fool thousands of people.

CATCH is a feature in Ben’s professional repertoire. Soon, it will be in yours too...

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[jimdavisrules]

The only thing he'd have to do is a force or a peek.
A peek is impossible here, so it had to be a force.
Maybe he spreads the cards in a way most of the indexes are concealed. And the ones that are shown are ones most people would think of anyway.

[professor808]

The only thing he'd have to do is a force or a peek.
A peek is impossible here, so it had to be a force.
Maybe he spreads the cards in a way most of the indexes are concealed. And the ones that are shown are ones most people would think of anyway.

That last method would be too obviouse to the spectator, they would just simply say, i cant see any but one card.

The peek is also not impossible. A friend of mine has worked it down to a science. He spreads a deck and tells someone to look at the cards, he can follow there eyes to 100% correct card. Its impressive

Anyways. once the card is selected or forced or peeked, Then how would you snatch it out of the air after it being shuffled to a random spot.

That is the part you need to figure out. Its not just a simple matter or peek or force.

I believe there are parts to this trick left out of the video, such as he is peeking at the card selected and palming it out before allowing the spectator to shuffle.

Or maybe he has also cut out thing he said to the spectator, such as fishing to figure out what card it is.

[magic123]

Maybe that card isn't in a "random spot". I don't think its a good trick because who wants to pick up 51 cards after every performance???

[professor808]

Maybe that card isn't in a "random spot". I don't think its a good trick because who wants to pick up 51 cards after every performance???

Do you even do magic?

[shah]

he take the selected card from behind before he catch it.... you can see clearly if you used slowmotion at the early second of the video.... (sory, bad english..)

[professor808]

he take the selected card from behind before he catch it.... you can see clearly if you used slowmotion at the early second of the video.... (sory, bad english..)

Yeah bad english, i have no clue what you are trying to say, other then he took the card before he caught it.

[AceOSpades]

pause it repeatedly at the begining...you cna see him already holding a card that he took form behind his back......as far as the others...i dont know

[professor808]

Well it dose look like he is just catching the last card that springs off of the deck.

But so far it seems he peeks the card, palms it out, allowes a shuffe, plams it back on top, springs the deck, then catchs the last card as it flys out.

[AceOSpades]

Well it dose look like he is just catching the last card that springs off of the deck.

But so far it seems he peeks the card, palms it out, allowes a shuffe, plams it back on top, springs the deck, then catchs the last card as it flys out.

it could be...the video diddnt show all of the trick together...so its hard to tell..
and i jsut tried catching the last card while springing...i couldnt do it....the card flew out so fast you dont ahve much time....but the description says ther's a gimmick

[jenemagic]

okay, this may sound farfetched but the method i am about to explain is the method for this effect:

a few weeks ago, i went to a ben seidman and luke jermay lecture here in vegas and he didnt explain it, but he showed us his new catch trick. he had someone "see" a card in the deck and then shuffle it, and then he caught it.

i was talking with the guy who thought of the card afterwards and he said that he fanned them but had one card out in the front that was telling him to think of that one for the trick to work.

now, there are a few methods he teaches but the stage one he uses is just having them select one and controlling it and palming it which is the RIGHT way to do this trick.

now, i knew it used a gimmick, but when i did the show a few weeks ago with tyas frantz, he saw the comedy card catch that i did and he asked if it was ben seidmans catch. i told him that all i was doing was crimping their card and having them shuffle and then palming it. he thought it was great because it is the best way to do it.

i asked him about ben seidmans catch and he had talked to him the other day about it and the one where they think of a card USES A HOLDOUT!

THE METHOD IS A HOLDOUT THAT BRINGS THE CARD TO YOUR HAND FROM YOUR SLEEVE!

I literally laughed when i heard this. the method is such bullcrap and is completely unnecessary. the card on the holdout is just the one that you force.

and then, the surrounded method is just catching the last card. i have respect for ben seidman, but this trick is just too much crap.

if you want to do this, just palm the damn card. the audience sees it as the exact same trick. my advice, just forget this one.

[professor808]

and then, the surrounded method is just catching the last card. i have respect for ben seidman, but this trick is just too much crap.

Sounds like i was correct on one of the methods.

I was toying with the thought of the holdout, but i did not think that would be this method because then you have to go spend $200 on a hold out. Cant believe thats what it was

[jenemagic]

Sounds like i was correct on one of the methods.

I was toying with the thought of the holdout, but i did not think that would be this method because then you have to go spend $200 on a hold out. Cant believe thats what it was

i doubt it is really an expensive holdout. it says it comes with the needed props to accomplish it or to make it, so its probably a cheap ghetto holdout.lol

[professor808]

i doubt it is really an expensive holdout. it says it comes with the needed props to accomplish it or to make it, so its probably a cheap ghetto holdout.lol

I have wanted to get a good hold out for a couple years now, i wonder if they do supply one and how good it is.

[jenemagic]

I have wanted to get a good hold out for a couple years now, i wonder if they do supply one and how good it is.

im not really sure. i doubt it will be like a very useful holdout, but im sure it wont be too crappy knowing ben seidman. it might just work, but i still would never use it for a card catch.

[pimbo]

Easy way is just to put the card in your sleeve and when you act like you are catching the card you just let the card come out of the sleeve and catch it.

[rizy]

nice trick..does anyone have this?

[jenemagic]

nice trick..does anyone have this?

umm.. i already explained how it works.

[Street Freak]

Sorry but what is a hold out

[AceOSpades]

Sorry but what is a hold out

It's a device that brings a card from your palm to the inside of your sleeve.

[Street Freak]

sorry but how do you make one

[Hoax]

You dont make one.. you buy one..



and the trick is impromptu.. someone takes out a card, remembers it and they shuffle the deck up. the card gets controlled to the top.. he springs the deck and catches the last card.. that is the correct method..

[Street Freak]

Thats just one method. I dont have it but I figured out two methods. Yours and gamblers copping it then cathing. So what does a hold out look like. So its impossible to make one.

[jenemagic]

You dont make one.. you buy one..



and the trick is impromptu.. someone takes out a card, remembers it and they shuffle the deck up. the card gets controlled to the top.. he springs the deck and catches the last card.. that is the correct method..

ok, i just bought it and thats not one of the methods. the other methods i said were right but that one is not. when it looks like he is catching the last card, he is actually using the holdout. and it teaches you how to make the holdout with the props you get and it is just ridiculous and too complicated. the other methods are just back palming it, palming it, and sticking one to your back pocket with a magnet and then bringing it out. and also, when you use the holdout, you cant give the card out cuz it is two cards stuck together with a magnet between them connected to fishline. it is pure stupididty and impractical. if you want more information on it, you can pm me.

[Hoax]

like wtf?


that just fucking retarded like the guy himself..


He says it's impromptu, easy to do, can be done surrounded.. WTF MAN??

[BlindDodo]

like wtf?


that just fucking retarded like the guy himself..


He says it's impromptu, easy to do, can be done surrounded.. WTF MAN??

Yeh, his description seems to mix the best points from a few of the different methods...

All this misleading magic advertising lately is starting to really piss me off...

[Tim Magician]

like wtf?


that just fucking retarded like the guy himself..


He says it's impromptu, easy to do, can be done surrounded.. WTF MAN??

Yea, it was kinda misleading.
I think
* on stage
* on the street
* surrounded
* in short sleeves
* impromptu
Are just the types of different methods, not adjectives describing one trick. Before I watched the vid and only saw something along the lines of, "Grab a card that the spectator is thinking of, in mid-air" and the trick started to grab me. Then I saw the video and it just didn't seem as good.
So, is this just a less difficult way to do a trick that involves a palm.

EDIT: In the vid, didn't the spectator just have to think of a card or see a card? How does that work?

[jenemagic]

Yea, it was kinda misleading.
I think
* on stage
* on the street
* surrounded
* in short sleeves
* impromptu
Are just the types of different methods, not adjectives describing one trick. Before I watched the vid and only saw something along the lines of, "Grab a card that the spectator is thinking of, in mid-air" and the trick started to grab me. Then I saw the video and it just didn't seem as good.
So, is this just a less difficult way to do a trick that involves a palm.

EDIT: In the vid, didn't the spectator just have to think of a card or see a card? How does that work?

well, when he has the person think of a card, what he does is corner short the card in the deck that is on his hold out and then cuts it to the bottom of the deck. he then reverse fans the deck so all they see is the force card. its just careful wording from there. and then to get rid of the card, he double sticks it to a back of a card in the deck. it is terribly too complicated for something that can be accomplished by a crimp and a palm.

[fusion]

there's a few methods taught on the dvd... you could palm the card that's without using the complicated setup up the sleeve... another method is to construct the gimmick that has a string attached to your cloth and to the card and you hide it in your sleeve.