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Preformer15

06-12-2009, 01:40 AM

MagicianLS

06-12-2009, 01:54 AM

some people really like this but others said it was complete crap you could probaly just make the gaffs that you want from it if you don't want to buy it

Magicman1204

06-12-2009, 02:00 AM

Dude I would highly reccomend it. When people said it was complete crap i was wondering what the hell they were smokin. The artwork is great and the tricks are awesome!

Preformer15

06-12-2009, 02:14 AM

Ok...thanks for the comments so far guys...It looks pretty cool...

I'm leaning towards buying it at this time....I've been looking to purchase it for a while, but I wanted to know what other people thought first....

Preformer....

Oh BTW keep the comments coming!!!!!!!!!!!

ntroberts

06-12-2009, 04:21 AM

The problem is, people know it's trick cards, especially for the visual ones. Heck, you can't even give them away as a souvenir, especially when they ask for it (it happens) and that only reinforces the "special-ness" of the cards.

I'm of the opinion that if I'm going to be using visual gaffs, they should be something I can give away by being cheap or something I can easily make on my own.

Also, you'll want to buy the 3 DVD set to understand how to use those cards properly too.

traumatised-magic

06-12-2009, 08:57 AM

the ultra gaff sucks.....if anythin just get the regular gaff decks

i mean half the cards in the ultragaff are just so stupid its unbelievable

i mean what the fuck is up with the batteries on the back of a playin card

i seriously dont know what the guys were thinkin when they designed this deck but i personally wouldnt use...some of the cards just look tacky and fake

people are not amazed by what teh card looks like, they are amazed by the fact u managed to switch the card for a different one

and on that note ur better off just usein regular cards rather than stupid gaff ones

plus when u order the deck u dont get anythin to give u ideas for routines to actually use the cards for, u literalyl just get the deck. u would either have to come up with ur own routines or buy teh seperate dvd to show u some ideas of what tricks to use them for

Tim Magician

06-12-2009, 10:26 AM

Imma have to agree with Traum, if you're getting a gaff deck, I'd say get the original gaff deck.
If the original red gaff deck came out after the ultra-gaff than everyone would be all like, "That's amazing, the best!".
I personally didn't like many of the ultra-gaff cards. But, don't get me wrong, there are some pretty good ones, but the whole, scratchcard, sexy, battery sort of things would probably be used as more of a joke than actual magic.

I personally prefer the gaff cards, like the moving pips, fade effect type thing, the smudge thing in ultra-gaff, and where they print two faces on one card (in the ultra-gaff). Not so much, the skulls on the cards and stuff. Why does everything turn so sinister nowadays? I guess one reason why I'd get ultra-gaff over the original is because there aren't so many evil-ish cards (with monsters and crap).

It's really up to you, many say that the reactions are good, you've seen the performances it's up to you. No, don't get it if you don't do card magic, but get it if you seem to like it (which you it looks like you do) ;)
I recommend you look through each card from each deck, and see which one has the most card you like. After finishing this post, I'm kinda confused on which one I would go for if I had to buy one :s.

the_ellusionist

06-12-2009, 11:11 AM

Nope guys! I completely disagree with the one who says that dont buy this deck.Believe me i love this deck and the tricks are just awesome.Just buy the dvd's you'll understand yourself these are the best Gaff decks ever made and Danny and Wayne are just so funny.Its better than the Normal Gaff deck by Ellusionist.In my opinion just buy the trick, I really love this deck.And i really hope you'll love this deck too!! But ofcourse it's upto you:D

Mystifier

06-12-2009, 07:59 PM

I say buy it becuase they get really good reactions from spectators.. Im going to get one soon.

fusion

06-12-2009, 08:00 PM

My opinion don't get it!

It doesn't sucks, but it is not Great! It is not as good as some says it is, and not as bad as many say it is. It is just ok if considering if it's value for money. There are effects there that you might use, but remember in the long term you always need the ultragaff deck which ain't cheap.

Save the money, use it to buy a good magic book, or other DVDs that have more variety of materials on it, effects that can be done with normal deck, and that are more worth it.

Probably a rating of 3 out of 5 i say.

stevethemagicguy

06-12-2009, 08:24 PM

i have it use it it is a great deck and you can get the dvds to learn how to use the deck for free cough..*torrent*

CarefullyCounting

06-12-2009, 09:09 PM

I vote don't get it. Like Tim said, there are some cool effects like the rub-off card, but I don't think it's worth 30 bucks. If I saw one on ebay I'd spring for it, but it just isn't worth the cost for me.

On a side note - if you want just one card that is gaffed on the back (zipper card, sexy card, rub away back, etc) you can get bicycle to print you a deck of them here (http://www.bicyclepersonalizedcards.com/). Then you get 52 of them that you can give away as souvenirs.

ntroberts

06-13-2009, 06:27 AM

On a side note - if you want just one card that is gaffed on the back (zipper card, sexy card, rub away back, etc) you can get bicycle to print you a deck of them here (http://www.bicyclepersonalizedcards.com/). Then you get 52 of them that you can give away as souvenirs.

USPCC is stopping all special printing jobs that involve changing the back (except color) as it puts them in danger of losing their trademark on the rider back. Of course, replacing it with a totally different back is alright. But a modification on the rider back is not possible anymore, sadly.

pelican trapper

06-24-2009, 05:03 PM

i say don't buy it. go with the regular gaff deck instead. The ultragaff is composed of cards that are too special and the rest you will never use unless you buy the companion dvd. The regular gaff deck provides you with different cards that in my opinion are much better and much more elegant for your magic.

JackSnap

06-24-2009, 06:09 PM

Dude, definitely buy the ultra gaff.

I have the deck and i didn't buy the DVDs.

You can easily figure the tricks out from the youtube videos.

The cards the deck come with can be used in a variety of ways.

You can make your own tricks too...

In my opinion 9/10 i like mine alot.

My favorite trick is Dead Cell. People are just like wtf man, your crazy.

Preformer15

06-24-2009, 09:30 PM

Ok, thank you for your imput :)

JackSnap

06-24-2009, 10:11 PM

Well, are you getting it?

Preformer15

06-24-2009, 10:12 PM

Right now, I don't have the money, but I think I might be leaning towards not getting it.....only because I have another Gaff Deck, and I think I will stick with that one for now...

iliketricks

06-25-2009, 03:50 AM

Wow, I love how mixed the opinions are on this deck.

For the most part I will have to agree with Traum and Tim. A lot of cards in gaff decks are way too specialized or just plain ridiculous. And to Tim: I think one of the biggest factors that contributes to the "dark" imagery that is associated with alot of magic in general these days is Criss Angel. Criss Angel has brought alot of people in to magic, a quick look on youtube will tell you that.

I actually am a really big fan of gaff cards, except for the over the top ones. The only style of completely custom cards I like are the ones like the guy in the coffin with the Ghost gaff. You know, the kind that can be your 'special' cards, your one of a kind 'collectors' cards.

I have really been able to DESTROY layfolk with some of those ridiculously gaffed cards. I definitely dont like using them though, it is just too over the top. I would much rather just keep a few of the cards on hand to throw in sometime. If you just throw one gaffed trick the whole night (if you are just hanging out) then it stays more convincing........I Think

Tim Magician

06-25-2009, 12:51 PM

I actually am a really big fan of gaff cards, except for the over the top ones. The only style of completely custom cards I like are the ones like the guy in the coffin with the Ghost gaff. You know, the kind that can be your 'special' cards, your one of a kind 'collectors' cards.

I hate those cards.
I mean, I guess maybe they would be alright to just keep in my wallet and show off, but for magic, hell no.
I just prefer the gaffs that look like they've been through some sort of photoshop filter, like if they're fuzzy or smudged. Or maybe if they look like they've been misprinted (moving pips and stuff).

Preformer15

06-25-2009, 05:15 PM

Yeah......those look a little less stupid...cause I mean, what....a card with a battery in it??......what, did Ellusionist run out of things to put on Gaff Cards??

Dan - "Hey Wayne....I think we should put a battery on this card"

Wayne - "Great idea!!"

pleasend

06-25-2009, 05:21 PM

Preformer15

06-25-2009, 05:32 PM

Really??

Hmm.........

pleasend

06-25-2009, 05:45 PM

But if you have the money to spare buy the deck and all the dvds because they give you some ideas of things to do.

JackSnap

06-25-2009, 06:44 PM

I love Dead Cell...

If you pull 2 batteries out of a fucking card, people go crazy.

Its like a portal to another dimension.

Sometimes i don't even use the gaff cards, i can just have the spectators chosen card "poop" something out.

Like have batteries, money, candy, or anything small, just come out of their card. People go nuts.

pleasend

06-25-2009, 07:44 PM