stop right there

[AceOSpades]

hmmm im completely fooled by this....
i have no idea how this is possible.....magician never touched the cards and no possible way of the stop by jay sankey principle.
any ideas?
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[ntroberts]

It's said to be gimmicked... but damn... I have no idea how it works given the conditions. Unless truth in advertising is lacking here...

[AceOSpades]

It's said to be gimmicked... but damn... I have no idea how it works given the conditions. Unless truth in advertising is lacking here...

Oh so its gimmicked?


hmmm wonder what it could be?

im so stumped...

its just so clean...you see the magician never touches the deck ...

amybe cutting the deck had something to do with not disturbing the deck or something...but im not sure a tall

[traumatised-magic]

well the way i would have done it is by havein a long/short card in the centre....or any other way to force the spectator to cut at a specific spot...there are a few out there available

then its just the classic mental stop trick and a stacked deck

everythin other than the cut i can explain, its just how he got them to cut at that specific spot....and the only thing i can think of is usein a long or short card

basically he told the guy to stop when ever he felt like it and as he said the word stop the guy stopped within 2-3 cards....classic mental stop force

the deck is stacked so he knew the next card was a 6....if the guy had stopped at the 6 i would have said he had just used it rather than askin for the next card.....that bit seemed very un natural to me

dealt 6 cards and the 3 hearts was at that position

easy as that

[ntroberts]

well the way i would have done it is by havein a long/short card in the centre....or any other way to force the spectator to cut at a specific spot...there are a few out there available

then its just the classic mental stop trick and a stacked deck

everythin other than the cut i can explain, its just how he got them to cut at that specific spot....and the only thing i can think of is usein a long or short card

basically he told the guy to stop when ever he felt like it and as he said the word stop the guy stopped within 2-3 cards....classic mental stop force

the deck is stacked so he knew the next card was a 6....if the guy had stopped at the 6 i would have said he had just used it rather than askin for the next card.....that bit seemed very un natural to me

dealt 6 cards and the 3 hearts was at that position

easy as that

You seem to have mixed how you would do it and your take on how he did it :D

Anyway, I'm hoping it's not one big out game though. There wouldn't really be a need for gimmick if so. No cut? So what?

[AceOSpades]

well the way i would have done it is by havein a long/short card in the centre....or any other way to force the spectator to cut at a specific spot...there are a few out there available

then its just the classic mental stop trick and a stacked deck

everythin other than the cut i can explain, its just how he got them to cut at that specific spot....and the only thing i can think of is usein a long or short card

basically he told the guy to stop when ever he felt like it and as he said the word stop the guy stopped within 2-3 cards....classic mental stop force

the deck is stacked so he knew the next card was a 6....if the guy had stopped at the 6 i would have said he had just used it rather than askin for the next card.....that bit seemed very un natural to me

dealt 6 cards and the 3 hearts was at that position

easy as that

i beleive yuor right traum the description says "comes with special gimmicks to fit normal bicycle deck" so some of the cards are the gimmick....so its alot like a svengalli deck.

[Bubba Smith]

When ever they can "cut" the deck a few times...it's usually a rotational stack..same values repeated.

He used 1 out...and that was "to use the next card" after he stopped at the JD...the "next" was the 6...so suites don't matter.

I "think" the gimmicks are just 2 dupe cards, and the wallet with the 3rd card in it ...I'm sure it's a stack system.

We have seen 13 of them QS/5D/10H/7C/8C/JD/6D/7H/4S/7D/2H/AD/3H..Then the next card shown was a queen...so the rotation starts again...remember suites don't matter.

[ntroberts]

When ever they can "cut" the deck a few times...it's usually a rotational stack..same values repeated.

He used 1 out...and that was "to use the next card" after he stopped at the JD...the "next" was the 6...so suites don't matter.

I "think" the gimmicks are just 2 dupe cards, and the wallet with the 3rd card in it ...I'm sure it's a stack system.

We have seen 13 of them QS/5D/10H/7C/8C/JD/6D/7H/4S/7D/2H/AD/3H..Then the next card shown was a queen...so the rotation starts again...remember suites don't matter.

Hmm... good point! I'll try to work out the outs given various situations.

EDIT: Problem is, he used up 3 7s in 13 cards. That casts doubt on a rotational stack to me....

[benpmagic]

When ever they can "cut" the deck a few times...it's usually a rotational stack..same values repeated.

He used 1 out...and that was "to use the next card" after he stopped at the JD...the "next" was the 6...so suites don't matter.

I "think" the gimmicks are just 2 dupe cards, and the wallet with the 3rd card in it ...I'm sure it's a stack system.

We have seen 13 of them QS/5D/10H/7C/8C/JD/6D/7H/4S/7D/2H/AD/3H..Then the next card shown was a queen...so the rotation starts again...remember suites don't matter.

I dont know is this is a coincidence, but it looks like overy other card in the deck conts down in twos (bold). So you could stop anywhere but the number of cards you had to count to decreased the closer you stopped to the three. So four stacks of the even cards and four dupe threes would work for this trick. For example if he stopped on the 10 then he would have to count 10 cards down, which is the three

[ntroberts]

Also, granting the spec can cut, the magician will just have to hope he doesn't cut close to a 3 or if so, not notice he passed a 3 already on the first deal?

[benpmagic]

Also, granting the spec can cut, the magician will just have to hope he doesn't cut close to a 3 or if so, not notice he passed a 3 already on the first deal?

I do a trick nightly at a resturant with a stack of QD/3H/7C/5C/KD/7S/2H/9D repeated. No one ever notices that they have seen the same card twice (sometimes three times). If you cut close to a three it would still work. Of course in the eventuality of them dealing to a three it would look even more spectacular

[ntroberts]

I do a trick nightly at a resturant with a stack of QD/3H/7C/5C/KD/7S/2H/9D repeated. No one ever notices that they have seen the same card twice (sometimes three times). If you cut close to a three it would still work. Of course in the eventuality of them dealing to a three it would look even more spectacular

Hm... interesting. Thanks for your inputs!

[MagicianLS]

I think the guy was in on it

cause he started dealing a couple seconds before he was told to

[AceOSpades]

I think the guy was in on it

cause he started dealing a couple seconds before he was told to

You're a smart one :rolleyes:

that doesnt have to do with anything at all.....as espen would say.....LS, go play in the highway please:)

[Liam-k]

just a guess here but basicly the deck is arranged as so

[q] [#] [10] [#] [8] [#] [6] [#] [4] [#] [2] [#] [P] [#] <--- Repeated x4

[p] is the predicted card and as you can see every other card counts down in 2's

if they stopped on an off card he would have said use the next card, else he would have told them to use that card that they dealt

then as you can see the numbers count down to their card and no matter what if the whole deck is set up like this whereever they cut will work

:D i feel so smart to work that out hehe

JUST DID THIS TO MY MUM

she did a sarcastic wow as always lol but it worked
my mum isnt easily amazed but she always begs me to do CTW when people come round lol

[benpmagic]

just a guess here but basicly the deck is arranged as so

[q] [#] [10] [#] [8] [#] [6] [#] [4] [#] [2] [#] [P] [#] <--- Repeated x4

[p] is the predicted card and as you can see every other card counts down in 2's

if they stopped on an off card he would have said use the next card, else he would have told them to use that card that they dealt

then as you can see the numbers count down to their card and no matter what if the whole deck is set up like this whereever they cut will work

:D i feel so smart to work that out hehe



That is exactly what I just said. Lol

[Liam-k]

That is exactly what I just said. Lol

yeh i spose it is init lol soz didnt read previous posts

but u didnt rly explain it you just sed setup and tbh if you did repeat like 8 cards over and over then im sure someone would notice cos alot of people will go through more than 10 cards

[Hoax]

You're a smart one :rolleyes:

that doesnt have to do with anything at all.....as espen would say.....LS, go play in the highway please:)


wtf? xD

I'd say "LS! Go to your room, miss!":)

nice trick.. might use this one:)

[benpmagic]

:)

tbh if you did repeat like 8 cards over and over then im sure someone would notice cos alot of people will go through more than 10 cards

You'd be surprised how innatentive people are.

[AceOSpades]

wtf? xD

I'd say "LS! Go to your room, miss!":)

nice trick.. might use this one:)

NO!

i EXPLICTLY remember you telling him to play in the highway......cooincidentally the news came on about a 6 year old hit in a highway accident LMAOOOOO


still though, telling the lady to go to her room, classy

[Fast21]

When I perform this trick I make the a special stack of Q#10#8#6#4#2#3 as 3 being the prediction. Then I make 3 unimportant stacks of Q#10#8#6#4#2#. The deck is set up so that I have 2 unimportant stacks on top, then my special stack, then another unimportant stack, then all the cards I didn't use on the bottom. For the cut, I tell them to cut very close to the middle of the deck. If they cut on the second unimportant stack, then I'll wait for them to get to the Queen of my special stack then use the mental force that traum said.