How Far Are You In Magic?

[PraisedMagician]

How long to you practice magic or xcm, and what level are you,(beginner, intermediate, advanced.)

[jaycee69]

I would have to say intermediate at magic

[PraisedMagician]

what kind of tricks do you perform?

[mystic crow]

I am intermediate.


I do lots of card ( close up magic) tricks


I also do stage illusions
what is xcm?

[jaycee69]

i like to do ambitous card routines and alot of dan and dave buck stuff...i also do a little bit of xcm (X-treme Card Manipulation)-for mystic crow purposes...

[PraisedMagician]

xcm stands for xtreme card manipulation. You know when you seen people do cool cuts and flips and fans with the cards, that's xcm. Here are some xcm dvds: Xtreme Beginnerz by De'vo
The System by Dan and Dave Buck
The Trilogy By Dan and Dave Buck

[magicman25]

i would say im and expert at magic and intermidiate at xcm :P

[Black Tiger123]

i am intermidiate at magic but i am not too much into xcm but i am going to start
i mostly do street magic and close up magic

[mystic crow]

xcm is like advance flourishes?

well I do xcm my self

[PraisedMagician]

there are basic xcm cuts, such as the charlier or revolution cuts.

[diego]

well in xcm i found system very easy so i dont no whats advanced or anything the tril was easy but a lil harder than system idk how to consider what xcm level and for magic im better at magic than xcm

[Black Tiger123]

well then i am starting flourishes. but xcm is really cool.

[PraisedMagician]

i am also better in magic than in xcm. But I've got the trilogy,system, and de'vo vids so I'm getting better.

[unseenmagic]

im say advanced as in i can preform about 8 impromtu card tricks that are pretty good and i know everything and i got all of it down and xcm idk i guess im begginner or intermediate not sure

[Cardkid]

me (intermedate - begginer expert) i know alot of imput. tricks um i like cards and money magic but when i go to greece i know a church and a gonna do alot of tricks there next year for $ then im gonna get more tricks with the $. muhahahaha!

[soccermagician]

I'm near expert at magic I need to catch up in XCM I'm not good at all....... lol oh and praised magician congratulations on the moderator. I wanna be one lol!

[RebelAce69]

Well it's hard to say I've only been doing magic for uhhh 2-3 months but I have at least 5 or 6 XCM stuff and know up to 30 tricks for street and card, the difficulty in them varies but I practice everything until I can perfect it....So I'd say intermidiate I guess Im not sure since I've never NOT been able to do something (besides gimmicks which you have to make of buy)

[PraisedMagician]

rebelace, sounds like your on a good start for only 2-3months of magic.

[RebelAce69]

Well I have cards on me all the time, and I've invested close to 300 bucks into it, since I have extremely large hands everything seems really easy even XCM, I just have to take the time to learn it and stop thinking about theory 11 haha

[PraisedMagician]

I always have cards on me too. I have invested hundreds and hundreds of dollar on tricks and dvds.

[RebelAce69]

Well I cant get a job because I forgot to apply for a social insurance number finding money can be tough =p and since I have hockey schools my dad says whats more important and well Id rather go to a nice hockey school than buy Xtreme Beginnerz, so I just hunt on putfile and youtube for stuff

[David Engel]

Magic - Intermediate, havn't really been paying attention too it because I have been working on other thinks like XCM and me guitar.

XCM - Near Expert, I don't know much more to say, I have stopped magic for a little bit to practice and perfect the flourishes I learn and create. I already created 5 false flourishes like DnD's Mary Jane, one cut in which someone said it looked like the WERM, but it was more like De'vos' Flash Drei. I have a few displays, and right now I am going to start on a DVD for SA like the System except you get the choice of learning De'vo style(instructions) or DnD Buck style(slow motion) and Brian Tudor style(thats right, you get to see me perform them slowly. Still worse than DnD style, but it is pretty much just me doing them slower than normal.)

That's all I got to say about that.

[PraisedMagician]

How are you going to publish and produce the dvd?

[David Engel]

I have a friend who likes making DVD's and he likes doing it. So I will contact him about it. So I might be in association with his company. (It is like a small company he started in his garage or something. No big company building or anything, I believe it is all done from his computer.)

[soccermagician]

That's cool a dvd making company.

[David Engel]

Yeah but I have to wait for him to accept the myspace friend crap, or wait until the school year starts.

[soccermagician]

Oh lol so are you going to sell it to SA?

[PraisedMagician]

isn't david engel part of SA?

[soccermagician]

He is????? I never knew that!!!

[RebelAce69]

He is????? I never knew that!!!

Yeah he is a lot of people here are apart of it

[soccermagician]

Wow cool how can I become a part of it?

[traumatised-magic]

i'd say in an advanced magician. i do xcm too

i do loads of differnt kinds of magic, from stage shows to close up and street magic. my main area of expertise however is cards. i like to make all of my own gaffs as well.

[David Engel]

He is????? I never knew that!!!

Yeah I am the XCM Dude for them. I will probably do a Card Cheat video too but I havn't deceided on it yet.

[RebelAce69]

Wow cool how can I become a part of it?

You'd have to talk to the main creator of the site, which I forget who it is lol. but Im guessing youd probably have to prove yourself as well since they don't jsut want anyone average magician on it you'd need to have a specialty

[soccermagician]

Darn it lol.

[David Engel]

Talk to Charles (m4g1c) or Raphaelr. If you have something unique and it is helpful you could be apart. But if you just want to be a person who just gives them tricks don't count on being part of staff. That is why there is a "Submit" a trick system.

[Ngo]

lol y is evrybody saying they are advanced.. i believe some but not all. Juts cuz u know some impromptu tricks and whatnot does not make u advanced.. it doesnt matter how many tricks u no, but how well u can perform. if your double lifts and sleights are obvious then u are not advanced. I'de say im intermeddiate i also do xcm tho i dont know what level i am. I can do fans and where the h is sybil (tho slow). also rebelace69 n praised.. who do u perform to, do u have gigs, just wondering.

[RebelAce69]

Nope I don't do gigs yet since Im still practicing and tweaking my stuff I made and stuff I perform and trying to set-up my full routine still. I mostly do it to friends and family members, I occasionally go up to people on the street but I usually only do it family and friends and such. I also practice in the mirror A lot. More than actualy performing since I'm my hardest critic.

[PraisedMagician]

i perform at party and gatheriings, but i'm just a kid so i don't have a gig.
I'm thinking of buying my own site and selling stuff.

[Ngo]

lol just wandering cuz i invested a few bucks into magic but i have no gigs.. i just perform for friends and stuff, so i thot i was a loner

[soccermagician]

I just perform for my friends and families so far the only gigs(if you want to even call them that) was when my cousin was having a birthday party(turning 6 so little kids) I performed for him and his friends.

[RebelAce69]

Haha your not a loner it's how everyone starts out. Even Criss Angel if you read stuff about him he started by reading books and performing on his family. Basically once you gain confidence then you can start doing it to people in the public and if you get good reactions then set-up flyers at a community cnetre and start with Birthdays and move from there

[PraisedMagician]

most people on these forums are kids that like magic tricks. Most of the time i just show tricks to friends and family too.

[soccermagician]

Right now I'm nervous to do anything bigger than a kid's partie lol.

[baseballfire]

im advanced i perform most the of The ellusionist tricks, i know all the ellusionist tricks.

[PraisedMagician]

do you have a youtube account?

[Ngo]

what did i say about knowing tricks baseballfire.. lolz, i know about 100+ tricks thing is only a few of them are useful enuff to use

[soccermagician]

what did i say about knowing tricks baseballfire.. lolz, i know about 100+ tricks thing is only a few of them are useful enuff to use

Same here well almost all the tricks i know could be used for a kid's partie but not for a gig.

[onyxthedog]

I am probably considered an advanced beginer or and okay intermediate.
I mainly preform when i go to Wal-mart or Target or somewhere like that. But there are two major festivals around where I live so I also preform there:)

[soccermagician]

I might perform at our next fair. Oh and 200th post yay!

[Ngo]

lol i dont have guts to do that

[happy0ninja]

i'm an intermediate magician, i do a lot of card magic but not really xcm, i prefer non card or coin magic, but what can you do?:)

[RebelAce69]

Well I know lots of card tricks with no gimmicks, a few with gimmicks, I have a chameleon deck invisible deck and blank deck (for blizzard) I can do basic coin stuff with the raven and a coins across routine, I know a couple of bill tricks but not many I dont like those....I know 3 rubber bands tricks (one I made up myself) which is quick and effective. Im getting Wiregrams soon as well as Trespassing from SA so there's more to add to my arsenal

[soccermagician]

I don't have a lot of gimmicked tricks.

[RebelAce69]

I personally don't like gimmicked tricks...the only I like is Torn...or Gaffs those are always fun but I only have 1 gaff card =p

[PraisedMagician]

you can make your own gaffs. I want to make my own playing cards

[ellusionist22]

i am intermediate

[KiNGC24]

im an intermidiate at magic and beginner in xcm...
i starting to like ACR's they're cool!

[Gabe]

im vary good but no expert

[mystic crow]

well now I am getting better reactions and I am having shows so I would call my self advance now:) :) :) :)

[m4g1c]

I'm Charles.
Not intermed. Not beginner. Not advance. Not expert.
Just, Chaaaarrrllleessss
=D

[Raphaelr]

people must love saying your name, chhhhhhaaaaarrrllllleeeeeeeeesss =D
But anywho, I am charles, not beg, not inter, not expert, but
Chaaaaarlllllleeeeeeeeess

[fatflipper]

im at about intermediate card magic skill levil and imbetween beginner and intermediate on xcm.
ive been practicing for 6 months.

[KoGeR]

since monday im a magicen from the israel magicen organztion.

[TravisWalker]

just last monday? cool. welcome to magic
im an intermediate.