Real mindreading, Its possible, Ive done it, And it blows the audiance away!!

[foxfire60]

****o, recently I discovered how to read minds, yes really! Imagine this, having a spectator just THINK yes you heard me THINK of a number between 1-100, You then hold there hand and a couple of seconds later you shout out a number "58!" Your spectator gasps...You just performed a miracle!


This is how its done, THIS IS REAL MIND READING IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THIS THEN PLEASE TURN BACK NOW!:


This takes lots of practice and if developed over time you will be the next...well... Um mindreader! This takes COMPLETE concentration! If you have any relatives near by i want you to do this, have them hold there hand out, very very relaxed, and then cup you'r hands around theres also relaxed and think of a number between 1-10 (just to start you out) and then after they have it tell them to think of it as if it were a living thing, there best friend, or even a pet . You then go down the numbers, 1...2....3...4...5...6...7...8...9...and ten but you do this in your mind and not aloud Your mind will stop you at a number, or it should, You name out the number that came to you... and then your relatives face turns red as if there pants fell down!


Tell me if this works, I will post more advanced guides in the future, post questions, i will review them and answer, please be nice

[M1dnight Sun]

Um...I don't get it. How many times did you do this and how many times have you been right? It sounds unreal

[nightfall]

Entirely hypothetical, how might you explain this phenomenon? How does one develop control with more practice? Where are the scientific facts? I do not wish to displease you, I simply wish to know what you are trying to get at.

[foxfire60]

There is a connection of all of the minds in this universe, yes that is my theory and i am sticking to it, If you have another persons mind in mind it will just happen, try it on some friends and to answer how many times have i been right, i have done this about 100 times in the last week i got it wrong ONCE! Thankyou, Oh and I also did numbers 1-100...

[nightfall]

For the sake of debating, let us assume that this is real, and our minds are connected by an unknown force. Yet how is it possible that this has not been discovered? Is this the state of being psychic as in the sixth sense? I can ask about thousands if not millions of educated questions, yet will you be able to answer them? Please note that I am only trying to find out how you remain truthful to your "theory".

[foxfire60]

This could be considered a "sixth sense" This has been discovered and will be added to by scientists, over the future, The power that we all have connects our subconscious minds over a web of minds, when we sleep we are all connected more than we are during the day, each and every one of us that is sleeping, please ask as many questions as you like, I can answer until dawn :)

[foxfire60]

this has been discovered and is being improved on this second, Our subconsious minds are melded together when we sleep to form a THOUGHT this is what happens while we sleep, When we awake, if we stay in our subconsious mode or awaken our subconsious during the day we may find another soul who has too and speak telepathicly with him/her for as long as you stay in that state, you could have a regular conversation, or just read each others minds, but i can see you do not believe in these methods by the way you speak of them. I am very secure with my theory on this subject so ask away.

---woops double post!

[Raphaelr]

how does it feel when it "stops" does it not allow you to think another number? or does it just feel different?

[foxfire60]

I believe it is different for each person, for me my mind has been trained to just not let me go on, it could be different for you, just try expirementing, for example: Have a friend think of a number, you then attempt my way of going about this, you then remember how each number felt when you thought of it, and then have your friend name his or her number, and see if that number matched any feelings you had when you thought it, I hope you understand, pretty tired, long day of shopping and skateboarding :)


PS: glad to see you got your moderator spot back :D

[Ngo]

This is a magic forum not a paranormia mind reaqding con's forum. We don't need another Uri Gellar and my subconscience is my own realm.

[cky_haggard]

Hmm, I'm not too sure about a "connection of minds" whenever I do stuff like this, I use psychological forces ie. Subliminal Persuasion, I uses embedded messages in what I say to get influence what I want my spectator to think of, like forcing a card psychologicaly.

[Ngo]

that on the other hand is very very difficult. Firefox is obviously faking the science stuff. No scientist will say your subconscience connects to others, they havnt even figured out why we dream or have a subconscience thought yet, so dont lie to us please.

[cky_haggard]

Well in some respects he is right you are forming a sort of subconcious relationship with that mind via anchoring and rapport, to make them feel more comfortable around you a more likely to be suggestible to what you do.

[Raphaelr]

I believe that there is this very well respected rocket scientist, who believes in the sixth sense. Basically, all matter is connected in an energy field or something like that. I know that the name of the scientist starts with edward and he was a former astranaut.

[Ngo]

all MATTER, your subconscience is NOT a matter.. subconscience relationship to make ppl more comfortable is different from reading their mind, we dont share a field of subconscience, we can only manipulate another.

[nine of kings]

This is a magic forum not a paranormia mind reaqding con's forum. We don't need another Uri Gellar and my subconscience is my own realm.

If you think he's conning you, don't read this. It's that simple. You don't pay for these forums, so how can he scam you?

[TravisWalker]

has anyone actually tried this.

[mindfreak91]

wel i dont belive u can demonstrate esp in this manner . ido remote viewing i know how this works and how the information comes in .if you belive u can do this then please do it tome.and the reason esp is not scientific fact is thanks to skeptical scientist who dismiss the evidence simply becuase they dont believ in it but one day esp will be part of science and its slowly but surely getting there.pm me to demonstrate your ability the hands would not at ll play a part seeing how its our minds that are connecting rite? ill tell u if your psychic i can setup up a remote viewing target to see if you have ne thing to demonstrate at all so pm please if ur intereste in finding out the truth

[-MindFreak-]

Actually Criss Angel tried this trick except with actual objects instead of numbers. It was on the helistronism episode. Therefore, he read the muscle movements of the spectator to find out when the spectator thought 'stop'. The spectator would predictably make a small eye movement upwards, and make slower eye movements throughout the rest of the list. If the spectator is asked to have thier eyes closed, then thier eylid will move a bit during thier chosen object.

Anyways, there is always a sign unless the spectator is very subtle and knows what you're trying to do.

Although Criss Angel failed to do it, I still think this is a possibility.

[thecardkid]

I tried it on my little brother and it................................................ didn't work

[Raphaelr]

It worked with me.....

[David Engel]

I tried it on my little brother and it................................................ didn't work

Because you probably were right and he changed it. There is no point in me doing it, because if I do get it right, my friends will change the number.

[foxfire60]

david, try it on a relative, they usually wont lie to you, and raphaelr, thanks for posting something positive :)
and everyone else, if you dont believe in this its as simple as this: DON'T POST duh!

[greg]

i belive beacause i use this all the time.

[foxfire60]

greg, how long have you been practicing?


pm me to demonstrate your ability the hands would not at ll play a part seeing how its our minds that are connecting rite?

The hand connecting just helps, the connection and the heat actually yells out to you'r subconsious what they are thinking, most people don't realize this but for some people, including me, touching is their most valuble sense...

[greg]

like 1 year an 3 months

[greg]

i do cold reading two and im learning speed reding

ps:sorry for doble post

[foxfire60]

i have been practicing for about 3 years and have read someones bank pin before :D

[David Engel]

david, try it on a relative, they usually wont lie to you, and raphaelr, thanks for posting something positive :)
and everyone else, if you dont believe in this its as simple as this: DON'T POST duh!

Not unless your little brothers are lying b*stards.

[greg]

im learning how to read not numbers only even wordss or pictures.

i know how to read the pin nuber of almost all credict cad. i only ask tem to think about the numbers they freak out

[foxfire60]

david, try it on your parents?

greg, I can read shapes, images, and most words

[nightfall]

Enough, we are not trying to make believers. You wish to propose this theory of yours? Fine, go ahead, but it seems some users are taking firm ground on this being relevant and real, yet some have not and will not. From this point on try not to convince people of it being real, not that the TC did, it is just that I do not wish upon this elevating to a point of no return. Thank you.

[greg]

i dont know why but i cant no read shapes

[foxfire60]

Enough, we are not trying to make believers. You wish to propose this theory of yours? Fine, go ahead, but it seems some users are taking firm ground on this being relevant and real, yet some have not and will not. From this point on try not to convince people of it being real, not that the TC did, it is just that I do not wish upon this elevating to a point of no return. Thank you.


I am not trying to make believers, i am speaking with believers, if you don't believe, just don't reply please, and what do you mean by "elavating to a point of no return" you may not believe but i do and that is my choice, please do not speak of us like that if we do not speak about you in a mean way, this was just trying to be helpful but it has turned into a debate. I see some people here are very immature :(

[greg]

if you dont belive dont post here.


is a free choice you belive or you not belive you choose

[nightfall]

I am not trying to make believers, i am speaking with believers, if you don't believe, just don't reply please, and what do you mean by "elavating to a point of no return" you may not believe but i do and that is my choice, please do not speak of us like that if we do not speak about you in a mean way, this was just trying to be helpful but it has turned into a debate. I see some people here are very immature :(

And it is those people I am speaking of. i understand your position and I respect it. What I dislike are the posts that contain irrelevant contents such as stating it is 100% real and that many have done it, and then leading to their own ways. I understand what you mean, and do feel free to continue discussing it, but if more posts with immature contents shall be posted, I will close this.

if you dont belive dont post here.


is a free choice you belive or you not belive you choose

And why is that? You are contradicting yourself, how can I not post if it is a free choice of believing or not? Again I stand on my position of disbelief, however you may choose what you wish.

[foxfire60]

but if more posts with immature contents shall be posted, I will close this.


May i ask what you mean by immature content? We are just making choices and speaking about them...

[nightfall]

By immature, I mean throwing out that this works without scientific basis. Which can also be simply put as uneducated posts. I do not mean you, and I do not mean the posters in your thread. I am simply stating that I wish it would not come to the point in which everyone is stating this is a fact without any scientific knowledge whatsoever.

[greg]

By immature, I mean throwing out that this works without scientific basis. Which can also be simply put as uneducated posts. I do not mean you, and I do not mean the posters in your thread. I am simply stating that I wish it would not come to the point in which everyone is stating this is a fact without any scientific knowledge whatsoever.

if you want scientific knowledge about this do some research

[foxfire60]

I see you'r standing, but scientists are just human as well, and I am sure there are many scientists in the world that believe in this phenomeneon. No man, woman or living creature can know everything, yet that is what we strive for is it not? I believe if there is a will there is a way.

[nightfall]

if you want scientific knowledge about this do some research

Greg, I wish to defy you. How might you stand firm on this. I respect the topic starter because he has provided enough to let me understand how he is able to come to his conclusion. Yet, you have provided nothing.


~Lets hope this does not turn out like this.

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/epa1159l.jpg

[Kingsofspades]

lol lol lol (has to be at least 10 characters:) :D :D :D

[foxfire60]

lol lol lol (has to be at least 10 characters


Was that spam or just stupidity?

[Ngo]

no need to diss on kingofspades. Anyhow about the hand movement, those only work to suggestive means, giving subliminal messages to the subconscience.. i can understand if u try and suggest a number catagory.. but saying as you say u just straight up read their mind i dont see how theres any science upon this. read my mind?

[foxfire60]

Science is not the issue, it's the way we are raised, we are raied to not believe in "nonsense" such as mind reading and the power of the mind, just because the 90% of people out there have not discovered that ability does not mean it is not true. This very seconds scientists are reading peoples minds, (with machines of course) just because they cannot do it with their OWN mind power yet. And I was not "dissing on" kingofspades, I just think the remark "lol lol lol" was uncalled for, And just because you do not have a trained mind does not mean this theory is not true, such as the subject of ghosts, they could be real and they may not be, and this subject will most likely will be out there until the end of life on earth such as it has been since the biggining of time, there is no proof and most likely there never will be, I have performed this many times and a few people have dared to say, "So what? just a coincidence!" I then tell them what they are thinking of right then, and they have no further arguements. And with the statement "Read my mind." That is a pretty much useless thing to say, one because I cannot read someones mind over the internet and Two: Judging by some of these comments, You would be unreadable due to subconsious interference. Thank you.

[Ngo]

science IS an issue, there is no proof this exist thus as far as we're concerned it does not. You have to seperate facts from fiction, on the subject of ghost it's like saying ghost exist, its a fact. No..

If there is no proof then most probaly its make believe. Look at sylvia brown. She was challenged to a one million dollar contest and yet she made up excuses as to why she couldnt do it. your thought of mind can be concluded into anything.

Just cuz theres no proof that theres god does not mean hes not true
just cuz theres no proof that we can mind read does not mean its not true

you can do that for every myth, fiction, or fantasy. The only thing u have behind your theory is that you claim you can do it. Looks like we got another Uri Gellar.

[soccermagician]

Wow this is one the most convincing arguments I've seen. It could go either side. Anyway I've tried this 6 times and it didn't work any of the time. I'll keep trying and when I get it right I'll post. I think I still have to lean towards nightfall's side though. But I'll still try.

[Ngo]

it cant go the other side if theres no proof, basically what hes saying is that science is not a factor, just cuz theres no proof of its existence does not mean it does not exist. That could be said towards anything, this is the real world, no proof no go.

[foxfire60]

ngo, I ask you to try this, if it works, GREAT, if it doesn't either keep trying or stop posting discouraging posts...

[soccermagician]

ngo, I ask you to try this, if it works, GREAT, if it doesn't either keep trying or stop posting discouraging posts...

Agreed. I'm trying now.

[baseballfire]

omg i did this to my mom and it worked on my first try

[soccermagician]

omg i did this to my mom and it worked on my first try

Cool what was her number and what did it feel like for you?

[Raphaelr]

ngo, are you smarter than a rocket scientist?

well, a famous rocket scientist called edgar mitc**** who flew on apollo 14, who believes in esp, and considers it real, and gives scientific explanations in his books you can find his wikipedia here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitc****
for the sake of knowledge, be open minded.

[soccermagician]

Yeah give it a try before you post bad things.

[Raphaelr]

all rocket scientists step forward(no one), ok, so lets bring in our expert, edgar mitc****, are you smarter than a rocket scientist? tune in to fox on tuesdays at 9:30 to find out, featuring guest star edgar mitc****, you can find his background here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitc****

[soccermagician]

all rocket scientists step forward(no one), ok, so lets bring in our expert, edgar mitc****, are you smarter than a rocket scientist? tune in to fox on tuesdays at 9:30 to find out, featuring guest star edgar mitc****, you can find his background here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitc****

Lol oh and you got 1,600 post nice!!

[baseballfire]

it was 9 and it felt like there was no doubt it was her #, i started spazzing out after i found out it was right! lol :)

[mindfreak91]

thats crap i do rv this is not how esp works why arent reall psychics winning the lottery??? huh cuz its very hard to pick up numbers we pick up feelings,images rarely number so stop with the crap its either mucsle readin or a lucky qeuss i belive in esp i can demonstrate it .if you can do that then pm me and do it to me like i said the mind is making the connection not the hands

[shaiza90]

I think I know what you are talking about, but most of the time I'm wrong...

[soccermagician]

Wow I just did this and I got it right 3 outta 4 times.

[mindfreak91]

lol i gave it a try for the **** of it and got it 2 of 3

[Ngo]

Ever heard of James Randi. He challenged ESP and Physics. His challenge is still on, and yet noone has won it. The prize: a million dollars. So what if the guy believed in Paranormal.. All i saw from wiki was that he said he conducted ESP test and that he believes in aliens.. proves nothing... big woop. It also says i9n Google search database that his book is scientific SPECULATION.

[Raphaelr]

I know who james randi is, unfortunuatly, the psychics that want money, are fakes, the only real ones are the ones that aren't exposed,if everyone in the world tried doing the challenge, I am sure that they would find someone, also, not many people know about the challenge. Plus, I have experienced esp in real life.

[TravisWalker]

i just tried this on my brother for three tries. these are the results:
1st try: His number was 2, and i predicted 3
2nd try: His number was 5, and i predicted 5
3rd try: His number was 8, and i predicted 7

I was really close in the 1st and 3rd try. and i got it right in my second try!

[seymourmagic]

Isn't this ****stromism on a basic scale?

[seymourmagic]

Dang, there are filters!lol :D

[Bill Fedrin]

I actually laughed out loud when I read TravisWalker's last post. Look at the numbers you predicted: 3, 5, and 7. Most peeps here should recognize the significange of the three <i>most frequently chosen random numbers</i> between one and ten being the only numbers he predicted, and sure enough, he got one of them right!

(Apologies to travis for this. I don't mean to offend you or anything. for all I know you may be legitimatley experiencing psychic awareness or something, but this just struck me at amusing)

I like to think of myself as open-minded, but I have to say I find all of this more than a little laughable. While I would bewilling to indulge in the idea that some type of extra-sensory perception <i>may</i> be possible, I also believe that most or all of it can be explained logically. For the sake of argument I'm going to try this experiment on someone in the near future (would do it now, but no one's at home), and if if actually does work, I'll by all means fully endorse this thread, but let's be serious people.

[m4g1c]

Bill, agree on what you are saying.
The chances are too high, even if we could link brains.
First off, if there are more then one person in the room, how do you know you wont link with them?
Second, I dont think anyone will get it right when they ask someone 1-100.
Again, to big of a chance, 1-10 is just slightly possible.
Third, there is no way mind reading is this simple hah.
If it was, we would have already had a computer that could type or do anything just with your thoughts.
Think about it.
If this is the 'evolution of mindreading' something is wrong...

[TravisWalker]

I actually laughed out loud when I read TravisWalker's last post. Look at the numbers you predicted: 3, 5, and 7. Most peeps here should recognize the significange of the three <i>most frequently chosen random numbers</i> between one and ten being the only numbers he predicted, and sure enough, he got one of them right!

(Apologies to travis for this. I don't mean to offend you or anything. for all I know you may be legitimatley experiencing psychic awareness or something, but this just struck me at amusing)

I like to think of myself as open-minded, but I have to say I find all of this more than a little laughable. While I would bewilling to indulge in the idea that some type of extra-sensory perception <i>may</i> be possible, I also believe that most or all of it can be explained logically. For the sake of argument I'm going to try this experiment on someone in the near future (would do it now, but no one's at home), and if if actually does work, I'll by all means fully endorse this thread, but let's be serious people.

yea yea yeah watever

[Raphaelr]

very true, people think that this is all, but it isn't. I believe that you must be very zen at the moment, or as foxfire called it "relaxed", it is more, zen means your mind is open, not really thinking about anything, it may not work the first time, because you are worried about following the steps and such. Plus, supposedly you need to have "permission" to access someone's mind, you need to have love for the person, besides, would you want some hobo listening to your mind because they want to find how much money is in your pocket of course not. thus, that is why foxfire asked for you to do it to your family, because I am sure you should I have a love for the member of the family. Thus, from people that know what they are doing, foxfire indirectly found out the secrets to esp, the world is going to end now.

[seymourmagic]

Raph, do you do yoga?

[Raphaelr]

not really, I think I am just a very zen down to earth person.

[seymourmagic]

Ah, you just seem like it onthis thread, lol:D

[Ngo]

lets see, even if u were zen about this chances are its all about luck.. 1-10, luck. chances are 1-10 noone is going to pick 1,2,9, or 10. I'm a buddhist, I meditate, I tried to open my mind, yet when i tried to read someone from 1-150... it didn't work. All we have are speculation, and the challenge isnt really about money, its to see if there is such thing.. so all the "real" physics, why dont u just do it to tell the world is possible, then maybe scientist will research a little more.

[Raphaelr]

again, esp or mindreading has been considered by many scientists, there are just those religous bleepers that are so bleeping ignorant, they don't want to admit it. It has been researched, like I said, there have been shot down by those religous bleepers. And, when you tried it, was it a family member? did you have affection for them? did you ask to have access? it takes a while to be able to access people's minds. If you can't turn off the tv for a few weeks, no computer, no electronics, then you should be able to hear the voices that your mind clouded. you see, people used to be raised the homo habilis was the earliest form of human, your parents were taught that. Then they discovered lucy, and kids had to be taught differently, unfortunatly, religiion got in the way be lucy meant that creationism was wrong, and evolution was real, thus many children are still taught otherwise. Most people here were braught up to dismiss their voices and fears(look at dr. dolittle), thus when you are older, you teach your kids the same, and people are taught to dismiss them. But then there are the people that didn't stop listening, they continued, and they learned, learned the truth about mindreading. unfortunatly, these people are dismissed again but the smartest man listens, and learns from what they have to say, and understands the truth. Again, this has been tested by scientists people are there are just the few religous that dismiss this, allowing it to never become fact, but hey, evolution is not a fact, but still so many people believe it, why? because people learn the facts, and decide why evolution is the only logical way.

[Ngo]

first off if u mean me, buddhist has nothing against it, all it teaches is to let go of wants. Big woop dude, thats really getting in the way. Second Evolution IS fact, animals go through evolution. If u think not u must be a "bleeper". Theres facts surrounding evolution, evolution of rats, insects, whatever. Again all you're giving me is that my mind is to clouded, ok jedi master ralphaer I'm sorry. Wheres the evidence, the only thing ur using to back u up is that you claim you can do it and I cant. Heck I can say i could fly, but would u believe me? No? Maybe your mind is too clouded so you cant fly. WTF? Just cuz u claim u can do it does not mean its true. Clouded my "bleep". Your conscience may be "clouded" (big doubt there) but your subconscience is not, heck we dont have control over our subconscience.. thats a FACT. I might believe in the paranormia. I really might, I really want to. But your arguements suck butt. "Its cuz your mind is clouded"

[Raphaelr]

look, I don't have time to get into an arguement here, I was not reffering to you. I am sorry I do not know the scientific explanation, but I remember hearing one. I have taken several of these workshops from a "psychic", and from what I have seen and done, I have no doubt in my mind that this is real. I am saying that many people are taught that this isn't real, so most people think it isn't. Now when you reffer to evolution, as you said, it is a known fact all animals evolute, now your in the trap, because how do we know that we aren't still going through evolution? and developing the "sixth" sense, not seeing dead people, but esp. and lol, the mind is clouded part is for the other people, not nessacarily you, and it is a problem for most people, and used to be for me.

[Railton2]

how can (does) it feel when you get the right number

[soccermagician]

To me I just felt my mind stop at a certain number. It wouldn't let me go on counting.

[Tyking]

Bill, agree on what you are saying.
The chances are too high, even if we could link brains.
First off, if there are more then one person in the room, how do you know you wont link with them?
Second, I dont think anyone will get it right when they ask someone 1-100.
Again, to big of a chance, 1-10 is just slightly possible.
Third, there is no way mind reading is this simple hah.
If it was, we would have already had a computer that could type or do anything just with your thoughts.
Think about it.
If this is the 'evolution of mindreading' something is wrong...

Ever heard of Steven Hawking?
thats a little different though.
you guys should read the book Silent Power by Stuart Wilde. he explains how to talk to people with your soul and how to read their mind. if you are really interested in this sort of spiritual stuff you should read all of his books. if you become really devoted to his stuff, you will be able to do unbelievable stuff, and take basically all the information that you want from a given person. I believe in all of this stuff. I havent devoted myself to this spirituality but i did read the book. as part of punishment my dad made me read the book. im only a kid so i don't want to waste my time doing this stuff, but i am going to try that 1-10 thing. If any of you are ready to devote yourself to REAL mind reading, then read his books.

[nightfall]

You mean Stephen Hawking right? Correction, he does not use his mind to control his computer. He used to use one of his free hands, but since he was getting weaker, he started to use the IST switch, which makes contact with his eyes and allows him to have full control over his computer.

[weter904]

that's a ton of baloney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Raphaelr]

that is exactly what I am talking about, chilrden or n00bs being taught some baloney.

[nightfall]

that is exactly what I am talking about, chilrden or n00bs being taught some baloney.

Are you referring to me?

[David Engel]

that's a ton of baloney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

Uri Gellar was able to do it! And Steven Hawkings didn't have mind powers to control his computer. His hand used his computer and his wheelchair. The rest of what Nightfall said because I don't know much about Steven Hawkings, except that on the Simpsons he opened up a Little Caesars down the street from Moe's Tavern. :)

Edit - And I believe it is spelled balonga. Something like that.

[Raphaelr]

I was talking to weter.

[soccermagician]

Uri Gellar was able to do it! And Steven Hawkings didn't have mind powers to control his computer. His hand used his computer and his wheelchair. The rest of what Nightfall said because I don't know much about Steven Hawkings, except that on the Simpsons he opened up a Little Caesars down the street from Moe's Tavern. :)

Edit - And I believe it is spelled balonga. Something like that.

Bologna actually.

[nightfall]

I was talking to weter.

Oh, I see.

[Ngo]

We go through evolution to survive, animals go through evolution to adapt to the new world aka "survival of the fittest". I dont see why sixth sense would help us survive THUS FAR. Of course we're going though evolution but as far as we know we arent going through the evolution of the suxth sense. Oh and to some other guy.. URI GELLAR is a con.

[foxfire60]

Everyone, You must likely wont believe this, but today i was performing some readings and i actually guess a number from 1-10000! it was 5693!
I obviously used a different method because it would take forever to count to 569, For my method to do that i practiced for a year and you have to concentrate highly on the aura of the person ( advanced ) and it will come to you, This is highly advanced, and takes lots of energy, once I actually fainted. So don't try this if you'r new to it please :)now for the questions?

[greg]

yeah one time forgot some memories for doing this with big numbers

[foxfire60]

yeah one time forgot some memories for doing this with big numbers


that is possible

[Gordzilla]

Uri Gellar has been proven to be a fraud. Mr. Hawking used technology to move his computer. N00bs will be newbs. As for actual mind powers, can't say that I've studied it enough or seen enough proof to know one way or the other.

[greg]

that is possible

i remenber my memories now.i got my meories back like two weeks later

[m4g1c]

Everyone, You must likely wont believe this, but today i was performing some readings and i actually guess a number from 1-10000! it was 5693!
I obviously used a different method because it would take forever to count to 569, For my method to do that i practiced for a year and you have to concentrate highly on the aura of the person ( advanced ) and it will come to you, This is highly advanced, and takes lots of energy, once I actually fainted. So don't try this if you'r new to it please :)now for the questions?

Lol...
How is counting in your head advance? Non the less thinking of numbers and being lucky to have it be your spectators.

[Ngo]

lol you fainted cuz u tried to read someones mind.. err.. sure. Lol no offense but i can imagine it now..

Hey think of a number
Ok..
I think I got it..
**faints**
WTF?!

lol.

[foxfire60]

lol you fainted cuz u tried to read someones mind.. err.. sure. Lol no offense but i can imagine it now..

Hey think of a number
Ok..
I think I got it..
**faints**
WTF?!

lol.


if your going to make fun of me, do everyone a favor and gtfo the topic -.-

[Ngo]

lol it was a joke calm down i said no offense.

[greg]

lol you fainted cuz u tried to read someones mind.. err.. sure. Lol no offense but i can imagine it now..

Hey think of a number
Ok..
I think I got it..
**faints**
WTF?!

lol.

tell me something have you try this thing.how many times ?

[Ngo]

three - - - - -

[m4g1c]

Also with thaaatt brought up, couldn't you do it across the net? What would be the difference?
Would you have to 'see' the person -.-
It's not that I don't think it's possible, I just don't think its THIS easy..

[mindfreak91]

ill admit theres somthing takin place here but the only problem is its not repeatable enough to be scientificallly tested becuase if you divide your hits and misses its clear it could just be luck but i think theres more to it

[Ngo]

lol i tried to argue like u to mindfreak.. they just told me i couldnt do it -_-'

[mindfreak91]

well id like hime to do it over the net for me please 1-10 becuase like i said psychic impressions rarely come in number so

[greg]

ill admit theres somthing takin place here but the only problem is its not repeatable enough to be scientificallly tested becuase if you divide your hits and misses its clear it could just be luck but i think theres more to it

i have being doing this for more that one year.and i can do it 1 to 1000000
and i only being wrong 3 times you going to tell me this is luck

[mindfreak91]

do it to me now then 1-10 should be easy

[Ngo]

If you're right (which i dont think u are but lets just say) and our minds are connected through one web then you dont exactly need to see them. Go ahead.. no name 1-7. Lol make it a bit easier.. i doubt u did 1-10000 and got even 1 right.

[foxfire60]

Also with thaaatt brought up, couldn't you do it across the net? What would be the difference?
Would you have to 'see' the person -.-
It's not that I don't think it's possible, I just don't think its THIS easy..


ok now im started, im going to start going into this deeper with you...
The reason you have to be near the person is because the person you are performing this to has to be in your astral plane, this gets way more complex then what i posted before, first off your astral plane is your place of subconsiousness that brings as raphaelr posted "zen" without it we would be most likely all crazy... So how does this add up? Your astral plane is actually just your imagnitation, could be considered the place of connection of our minds, yes really... your astral planes have to be approximately 100 yards or in visual contact, "The eyes are the doors to the mind"

[greg]

what you dont undertand you have to be here.so i can connect my mind with you.


ps: i dont know how to do this by internet

[foxfire60]

Come over to my house tommorrow and I'll show you in person :)

[TravisWalker]

this thread is getting way too long

[foxfire60]

this thread is getting way too long


And is that possible, i dont see how that matters, and by making posts like that, it makes it longer...

[mindfreak91]

i do real psychic work ok remote viewing is a sceintific way to perform esp and i can do so like i said there would be no difference if your next tome or not the astral plane theory doesnt hold any water and if you can do it then 1-10 psychic impressions come in images ,feelings sound, rarely numbers, so live up to your claim andtell me 1-10

[foxfire60]

i do real psychic work ok remote viewing is a sceintific way to perform esp and i can do so like i said there would be no difference if your next tome or not the astral plane theory doesnt hold any water and if you can do it then 1-10 psychic impressions come in images ,feelings sound, rarely numbers, so live up to your claim andtell me 1-10


Mindfreak, you are way too persistent! I told you once, or twice I CAN'T so leave it alone! If you don't believer me, fine that's you'r problem! If you believer in ESP and YOU can do it over the internet, then prove that! I'm thinking of a number from 1-10 so you tell me my number or I will just stop talking to you.

[foxfire60]

it's been 10 minutes now, nothing? eh ok im done with you now :)

[Gordzilla]

This is a forum about magic tricks. I don't see what this has to do with anything, to be honest. Can you "teach" it to me? If not, I don't see the reason you're posting it here. You have to see it from our point of view. You're telling us something that hasn't been "proven".

If I told you Santa was real and I knew him, would you believe me? No.

This is the same sort of thing.

[Ngo]

lol they'll just say just cuz u cant do it doesnt mean i cant.. trust me, i said it at the beggining this is a magic forum. general magic discussion.

[foxfire60]

This is a forum about magic tricks. I don't see what this has to do with anything, to be honest. Can you "teach" it to me? If not, I don't see the reason you're posting it here. You have to see it from our point of view. You're telling us something that hasn't been "proven".

If I told you Santa was real and I knew him, would you believe me? No.

This is the same sort of thing.


Can I teach it to you? Yes and i did, look at the first post, what are you retarded? And ngo, JUST STFU AAND GTFO THIS THREAD!

[m4g1c]

Can I teach it to you? Yes and i did, look at the first post, what are you retarded? And ngo, JUST STFU AAND GTFO THIS THREAD!

Too much pressure for you? :)

[Ngo]

ja it is hes throwing out disses now.. lolz

[mindfreak91]

like i said psychic impressions come in sounds feelings images rarely numbers

[David Engel]

Can I teach it to you? Yes and i did, look at the first post, what are you retarded? And ngo, JUST STFU AAND GTFO THIS THREAD!

How about you do the shutting the f*ck up and getting the f*ck out of the forums.

Also, using internet slang is lazy peoples way of talking. Spell out the word, you are in no hurry!

[soccermagician]

Lol yeah!!!!

[Tyking]

You mean Stephen Hawking right? Correction, he does not use his mind to control his computer. He used to use one of his free hands, but since he was getting weaker, he started to use the IST switch, which makes contact with his eyes and allows him to have full control over his computer.

I know, i said "Ever heard of Steven Hawking?
thats a little different though. "
Also if you read those books by Stuart Wilde, all this stuff will make sense, and you won't have such a closed mind. I believe in what foxfire is saying, and if you don't, just write ONE post saying that you dont believe it and then go to a different thread. theres no point in repeadetly telling us you don't believe it. and all you non-believers, in the time you spent on this thread, you could be reading the "Silent Power" book. its only like 80 pages long. Im not saying it is a must read book, im just saying if you don't believe in real mind power, read the book.

[Ngo]

why'd u say ever heard of stephen hawkings tho.. what was the meaning of that?

[m4g1c]

Every 10+ page topic starts to turn into a riot sooner or later :P.

[Tyking]

why'd u say ever heard of stephen hawkings tho.. what was the meaning of that?

maybe it was dumb on my part, but i didn't think it was that serious. its no big deal, theres no reason for you to bring it up as if i did a crime

[nightfall]

I know, i said "Ever heard of Steven Hawking?
thats a little different though. "
Also if you read those books by Stuart Wilde, all this stuff will make sense, and you won't have such a closed mind. I believe in what foxfire is saying, and if you don't, just write ONE post saying that you dont believe it and then go to a different thread. theres no point in repeadetly telling us you don't believe it. and all you non-believers, in the time you spent on this thread, you could be reading the "Silent Power" book. its only like 80 pages long. Im not saying it is a must read book, im just saying if you don't believe in real mind power, read the book.

A little different? How about the idea you are suggesting is absurd and much more irrelevant compared to mine. If it is "a little" different why did you post it, Stephen Hawking's talking computer had nothing to do with this mind reading. Assuming you believed his mind was transmitting the messages, it shows that you have much more to learn. Such as the correct spelling of his name. The only reason I am stating this is because you showed that you do not of sufficient knowledge over this, and before you start claiming something, research!

I do not mean harm, and if it sounded like said, I apologize. I just wanted to correct you, and I am sorry.

@TC

Wow you have 1,197 view! Maybe you should start a video on youtube!

[Tyking]

A little different? How about the idea you are suggesting is absurd and much more irrelevant compared to mine. If it is "a little" different why did you post it, Stephen Hawking's talking computer had nothing to do with this mind reading. Assuming you believed his mind was transmitting the messages, it shows that you have much more to learn. Such as the correct spelling of his name. The only reason I am stating this is because you showed that you do not of sufficient knowledge over this, and before you start claiming something, research!

I do not mean harm, and if it sounded like said, I apologize. I just wanted to correct you, and I am sorry.

@TC

Wow you have 1,197 view! Maybe you should start a video on youtube!
About the spelling, the reason I spelled it like that is because I googled it to do research about it, and it was on wikipedia, but i got the results spelling it like S-T-E-V-E-N. I didn't think you guys would care so much about a name, as if you don't know i mean Stephen when i write Steven. If you guys care so much about spelling, then you should ask Dave J. Castle to get spell check on the forums. And about not having "sufficient knowledge" on the subject, I read a whole book about it. And if you think the book is only one opinion, than read it yourself.

[Ngo]

I;m not talking about his name tho, we're saying whyde u bring him in to it? You said Ever heard of stephan hawking..

[Tyking]

I already said maybe I shouldn't have, and if you guys are so offended, i take it back. At the time that i read the post, Stephen Hawking came to my mind.I then checked how his computer worked on Wikipedia, and found that it wasn't from his thoughts. But I had already thought of it so I posted it anyway, and I didn't know you guys were gonna B**** about it

[Gordzilla]

Can I teach it to you? Yes and i did, look at the first post, what are you retarded? And ngo, JUST STFU AAND GTFO THIS THREAD!

Wow, foxfire, I'm not retarded. I'm beginning to thing you are though. Geez man, I was just proving a point. Don't burst a blood vessel, it might interfere with your mind reading.

[soccermagician]

Wow, foxfire, I'm not retarded. I'm beginning to thing you are though. Geez man, I was just proving a point. Don't burst a blood vessel, it might interfere with your mind reading.

Lol good one!

[pivotking960]

I believe 100% what foxfire and everyone else is saying. Dreams and your subconcious mind are things that science doesn't fully understand. Just because you don't believe, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I have not gotten a single thought right. However, i am going to try to open my mind wider and continue trying to pinpoint the feeling of mind reading. I completely believe that ESP and telepathy can be out there. Many people have contributed much thought to this thread, and much is logical reasoning of how ESP works. So if you don't believe, don't bash other people, and try to open your mind. These are my feelings and I would appreciate it if people didn't slander my ideas.

[foxfire60]

Yes, I am sorry for my previous actions, it is just frustrating when you are trying to explain something and so many people are making stuff up that they fully do not understand, and if you don't believe in this, just make on post saying you do not believe, and then leave! The time you are wasting on this thread is just getting more people p*ssed off at you.
obviously I am no expert at this topic, thought I know alot, if there are any questions, Not slander on this topic, please ask them.

Thank you.

[Stryker]

Oh my children. I was coming so close to locking this thread. Please guys if you are going to make posts try to follow the rules, thats what I stress most. I came to this thread for the first couple of pages thinking that it was a logical discussion and I found it somewhat interesting. Later on I come back to find a large flame war based upon swearing and different beleifs.

The fact of the matter if that you are allowed debating your opinion on the topic but if you do than like I always say "use common sense". There is no need for vulgar language or acting like 3 year olds on the forum. Before you completely dissagree with him I would advise all of you to try it out first on someone like your parents. I'm not telling you to try it I'm just trying to be open minded. Try it, tell each other what happened and go from there. By trying it you will be able to create statistics to show if it works or not. Instead of simply saying it doesn't work try it and say what happened.

There is a fine line between debating and argueing; guess side you guys were on :l

Debating the issue is fine just make sure:

-Your information is valid
-Your posts are nonsense/offtopic
-Your posts are meaningful

'Personal note: If you are only going to post 8 words responding to somones post I would consider this meaningless and you're trying to up your post count; Don't do it

So guys/girls please get back on topic and put a bit of knowledge and effort into your posts.

Thanks.

[foxfire60]

Stryker, I thank you for this
maybe more people will try this now rather then posting flames about this being untrue.


Once again, Thank you.

[Tyking]

guys, we're trying to debate about what is true, not trying to bash everyone who doesn't believe in what you do. I clearly stated earlier that it was a mistake to bring up Stephen Hawking, but Ngo asked again, not because he wanted to know why, but because he didn't agree with me and he wanted to bash me. My opinion is that foxfire is right, but that is only my opinion. If any of you are truly interested in hearing both sides, and finding the truth, you should read silent power by Stuart Wilde

[traumatised-magic]

what a load of crap know we all have our own oppinions but seriously dude, real mind reading would mean all u would have to do is look at someone and see into what they are thinkin and u just get a sense of it in ur own mind. what ur describing is minute signals. y else would u need to place ur hand on their hand.

to be able to truely prove ur theory u should be able to read someones mind while sitting bak to back with ur spectator, for one this would get both ur minds and that astrol feild thingy connected really well and u also wouldnt be able to read these minute signals it would be a test of pure mind readin powers. if u could seriously get good enough results from that say at least 15 out of 20 right then i'll b inclined to beleive in it untill then or untill there is actual proof of this its just a load of rubbish

[Tadooliz]

it worked :eek: i did it with my sister ..i said ,think of the number between one and hundread..in my mind someone shouter 6 ,and another number was 7 .and she was thought of it!! :eek: weirdo..

[Tyking]

according to the book Silent Power, you can read peoples thoughts. In order to do this, you must be devoted to it. I don't do it because it takes time and practice. In the book, it says that you reach out with your etheric, and your etheric enters your targets body. then you must concentrate on the question that you want answered, and the answer will just come to you.

Your etheric is a body of energy that surrounds you. it goes as far as 3-4 feet out from you. Some spirtitual people can see peoples etherics.
I didn't want to read the book, but I was forced to, and I learned a lot from it.

[pivotking960]

what a load of crap know we all have our own oppinions but seriously dude, real mind reading would mean all u would have to do is look at someone and see into what they are thinkin and u just get a sense of it in ur own mind. what ur describing is minute signals. y else would u need to place ur hand on their hand.

to be able to truely prove ur theory u should be able to read someones mind while sitting bak to back with ur spectator, for one this would get both ur minds and that astrol feild thingy connected really well and u also wouldnt be able to read these minute signals it would be a test of pure mind readin powers. if u could seriously get good enough results from that say at least 15 out of 20 right then i'll b inclined to beleive in it untill then or untill there is actual proof of this its just a load of rubbish

Not trying to bash but if you go out and take a look around you, you can see what people are thinking, but you can't exactly know what their thoughts say. By starting with reading people's facial expressions, you can hone in on the ability and learn to read smaller and smaller subconcious movements. Eventually this will become second nature.

And in no relation I walked up to my mom who was doing a SuDoKu puzzle and I predicted three times which number she was working on.
First: 7, the actual # was 8
Second: 5 and it was five
Third: I saw a four and hers was like 3 or something.
And then I predicted a beverage that she was thinking and she thought beer.
The statistics there are 50%.

[traumatised-magic]

Not trying to bash but if you go out and take a look around you, you can see what people are thinking, but you can't exactly know what their thoughts say. By starting with reading people's facial expressions, you can hone in on the ability and learn to read smaller and smaller subconcious movements. Eventually this will become second nature.


yes but that is reading their facial expresions, not their mind which is what the whole post/topic is on about foxfire claimed to be able to genuinly read people minds not their body language to tell what they are thinkin. i do beleive that it is possible to read people facial expressions to see what hey are thinkin i've done it a few times but that isnt what was bein claimed and that is y i said what i did by way of a simple test to really conclude if he is tellin the truth about actually mind reading or just reading body signals

[matthew145]

huh???????/:confused:

[foxfire60]

Matthew please don't make pointless posts...


yes but that is reading their facial expresions, not their mind which is what the whole post/topic is on about foxfire claimed to be able to genuinly read people minds not their body language to tell what they are thinkin. i do beleive that it is possible to read people facial expressions to see what hey are thinkin i've done it a few times but that isnt what was bein claimed and that is y i said what i did by way of a simple test to really conclude if he is tellin the truth about actually mind reading or just reading body signals

I am not reading body signals, I have done it with my eyes closed, and back to back and got it right 95% of the time.

[mindfreak91]

why cant u do it for me 1-10 if ur rite ill say so

[Ngo]

Ok I forgot ur name i think it was tyker or something I'm just asking to see if theres any relation.. you havnt explained ur point behind it till now. Second, I'm not making rubbish up I'm debating with facts and questions. Third, is silent power a speculation book or a book containing real FACTS that have been proven and regarded by other scientist and science itself?

[Raphaelr]

look, it is very difficult to do this type of mindreading without a picture or image of some sort, you also need a like or affection to the person you are doing it to, which I doubt he has with you mindfreak

[foxfire60]

Ok I forgot ur name i think it was tyker or something I'm just asking to see if theres any relation.. you havnt explained ur point behind it till now. Second, I'm not making rubbish up I'm debating with facts and questions. Third, is silent power a speculation book or a book containing real FACTS that have been proven and regarded by other scientist and science itself?


I told you, Scientists can't know everything, they are human, like us...

[Ngo]

Look, if you have facts to back it up then scientist can easily prove its right. Im asking if the book is fact or scientific speculation. scientist dont no everything, but they can prove if a theory is right or wrong through research and experimentation.

[pivotking960]

If you want facts, statistics are a fact. Like firefox said:I have done it with my eyes closed, and back to back and got it right 95% of the time. Those are facts right there. And besides, answer honestly, who would keep up a thread for 15 pages long if he was making it up. I believe in twin and even family telepathy. It's happened before, and when i did it i tried four times and 2 worked, and the other two were 1 # off.

[Tyking]

Ok I forgot ur name i think it was tyker or something I'm just asking to see if theres any relation.. you havnt explained ur point behind it till now. Second, I'm not making rubbish up I'm debating with facts and questions. Third, is silent power a speculation book or a book containing real FACTS that have been proven and regarded by other scientist and science itself?
SIlent Power is a GUIDEon how to do what I said earlier. If you read the book, you will not need scientific facts.




P.S Ngo, this might be kind of a rude question but you don't have to answer and it is not off-topic. do you believe in God?

[traumatised-magic]

If you want facts, statistics are a fact. Like firefox said: Those are facts right there. And besides, answer honestly, who would keep up a thread for 15 pages long if he was making it up. I believe in twin and even family telepathy. It's happened before, and when i did it i tried four times and 2 worked, and the other two were 1 # off.

statistics arent facts they are the analysis, interpretation and presentation of data. that doesnt make them facts. for them to be facts the data you collect would need to be a proven fact for you to make a statistical analysis of it, and then say the statistics are the facts. however i have not seen any proof i've heard the "proof" just not seen it. its easy for someone to say they can read minds with their eyes closed and back to back but where is the proof. thats like me sayin i can predict the weather cause when i'm at home in my room i know when its gonna rain and 90% of the time i'm right. or the statistics show that 95% of the time i'm able to know what is on tv before i turn it on. sounds like a load of b******s to me. i'd love to see u try and guess the number i'm thinkin of

[foxfire60]

statistics arent facts they are the analysis, interpretation and presentation of data. that doesnt make them facts. for them to be facts the data you collect would need to be a proven fact for you to make a statistical analysis of it, and then say the statistics are the facts. however i have not seen any proof i've heard the "proof" just not seen it. its easy for someone to say they can read minds with their eyes closed and back to back but where is the proof. thats like me sayin i can predict the weather cause when i'm at home in my room i know when its gonna rain and 90% of the time i'm right. or the statistics show that 95% of the time i'm able to know what is on tv before i turn it on. sounds like a load of b******s to me. i'd love to see u try and guess the number i'm thinkin of


What a coincidence, I would love you to see it too :) and everyone else here, yet how would we go about that? I am fully willing to make a visit to anyone who asks as long as you'r not too far away.

[Ngo]

Ok, your satistics could be fake for all i know and satistics arent FACT. And to tyking I"m a praticing Buddhist so no I don't believe in god. So silent power has no facts.. just speculation and a guide to do it. Thats all I needed to know, now i REALLY dont believe the book,.

[foxfire60]

If they could be fake why don't you just stop posting here and let people who believe in it post and ask questions.

[pivotking960]

I think that this thread has gone long enough. Its just caused a large flame war over believers and no believers. If you believe great, If you don't, thats too bad. I don't think I'll be posting here again.


ME HATH SPOKED

[Chriss]

even the greatest mind tricks have a logic behind them,and i am not talking about silly no predicting or card predicting tricks,believe me this doesnt have any meaning at all and niether it work for me...

[qwertymugg]

that is total bull****.. seriously... your method is not foolproof and your logic is warped

[Ngo]

its useless argueing with them their just gonna tell u that u dont need facts and that u need to just stfu and gtfo so plz stop posting on this thread.

[Raphaelr]

scientists and intellectual people have been argueing this for years, so how can a 12 year old finish it? just leave it alone, people have better things to worry about.

[Ngo]

r u talkin about me?

[Raphaelr]

no, just in general. I am saying there is not point in arguing here because no matter how much you try to persuade the other side, they won't accept it, basically there is no point in posting anymore as neither side will listen.

[foxfire60]

I am not trying to talk to people who do not believe, I am just speaking and helping people who have an open mind about this.

[rya1]

i got it second try. i believe you.

[foxfire60]

Thank you rya, for trying and believing, nice choice.

[sky_lark]

I believe you.

My first time doing it I got it correct. Now, it could have been luck, but I definitely felt it. When I did it over again, I didn't feel it at all. When I did it on somebody else, I had two feelings, I went with one of the feelings, it turned out it was the other.

What I'm saying is that you could with practice become nearly 100% foolproof. I had only a few tries, so I didn't expect to get everything correct.

[foxfire60]

I had only a few tries, so I didn't expect to get everything correct.


That's the exact problem, you NEED to expect you'll get it right =)

[mindfreak91]

like i said i belive in esp and can demonstrate it if you can as u claim do it fro 1 to 100000 with a 95 percent accuracy rate then present yourself to the scientific community for testing youll be famous prove th eexistance of telepathy and will end the debate 2 esps validity.....go ahead

[Ngo]

he cant, lets drop this alredy this threads suppose to b dead for awhile now.

[foxfire60]

So you continue posting why? I'm helping others, not critisizing so why critisize me? because you are jelous that you do not have the patients to do this? or the mind power?

[Ngo]

y would i b jealous of this fake bull**** dont bother responding im probaly not gonna even go back to this bull

[greg]

please a mod close this tread

ps: im a beliver

[nine of kings]

I am too. All you sceptics, why post? If it doesn't affect you and is completely free, why bother? People can believe what they want. Even if it isn't real, you can't do it anyway because you don't think it will work. So if it doesn't work, that's because part of you doesn't want it to! So stop the "I tried and it didn't work" because it's annoying and useless.

[foxfire60]

Greg, Please don't post things like that, you may want it closed but others may not, and how does this thread being open affect you in ANY way? It's simple... It doesn't! If you supply a good reason why it should be closed then fine post that. If not, just...shutup :)

[greg]

look i have almost 3 years doing this thing.

i dont want this tread to be close but every post here is like


this a lie

them come another post no this is truth

them come another
you have no provee

is never going to estop

and besides we are not discusing this efect

[amh73]

This has been debated for years. Many scientific groups have put up large sums of money available for anyone who can prove that they have esp or psychic abilities. No one has ever proven it so far. It is hard for me to believe that you can. Here is an example: http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/01/72482
If you can do this then a million dollars awaits you. I say prove it. Go for it if you can really do it. I say you can't, but prove me wrong.

[greg]

This has been debated for years. Many scientific groups have put up large sums of money available for anyone who can prove that they have esp or psychic abilities. No one has ever proven it so far. It is hard for me to believe that you can. Here is an example: http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/01/72482
If you can do this then a million dollars awaits you. I say prove it. Go for it if you can really do it. I say you can't, but prove me wrong.

you see this is one of this tread

[foxfire60]

This has been debated for years. Many scientific groups have put up large sums of money available for anyone who can prove that they have esp or psychic abilities. No one has ever proven it so far. It is hard for me to believe that you can. Here is an example: http://www.wired.com/science/discove.../2007/01/72482
If you can do this then a million dollars awaits you. I say prove it. Go for it if you can really do it. I say you can't, but prove me wrong.


ill study up more on it, and i will fly there as soon as possible.

[mindfreak91]

those organazations are not worthy esp has been demonstrated underlab controls many times and is repeatable there are many universitys and institutes studying esp with results that clearly show it taking place and science now admits there weak evidence for esp now and its slowly but surly getting into science

[amh73]

those organazations are not worthy esp has been demonstrated underlab controls many times and is repeatable there are many universitys and institutes studying esp with results that clearly show it taking place and science now admits there weak evidence for esp now and its slowly but surly getting into science

No it hasn't. Name one.

[mindfreak91]

institute of noetic sciences ,stanford university theres 2 .do your homework

[SenseiMan]

what you dont undertand you have to be here.so i can connect my mind with you.


ps: i dont know how to do this by internet

YO GAIZ I CAN DO IT 4 NUMBERZ 1 - 100,000,000,000,000.

BUT I CANT DO IT OVAR THE INTERWEBZ SO SRY ^_____________^

I HAVE BEEN DOING DIS FOr 40 YEARZ!!111

I don't believe in mindreading, it's all BS.

[mindfreak91]

its not all bull****

[nitrox]

It is all BS. If it was real, then someone would have proved in in test conditions and we'd know for sure that such things were possible. Unfortunately it's usually some kid on the internet hoping for a bit of attention, but can't cough up when asked from a demonstration.

[mindfreak91]

well like i said i dont belive he can do that but esp has been demonstarted under test conditions and has results that cannot be explained away by chance theres a reality to the phenomenon and science now admits there is some evidence supporting esp .i can demonstrate it me and soccer magician set up a small test target they were both successful

[Ngo]

lol you guys are just repeating past arguements seriously stop

[rattsexy]

this is what i think (not that it matters):
i believe in god but science has NEVER been able to prove that there is a god! yet i still believe in him, furthermore, being that i do believe in god, i have to believe that this is possible simp;y because, god is all knowing all powerful and allmighty and through him ANYTHING is possible. it is not inconceivable to think that if he can create the heavens and the earth and all things known to exist that he couldn't do something like give some the ability to connect in a way that others can not. just like some have the ability to excel at sports, others have the ability to draw or paint others have the ability to write software...etc. my point is this, just because you can't see it or you can't do it does not mean that it does not exist, it just means that someone might have something that you don't. and again science should not even be a factor, like i said, HAS SCIENCE EVER PROVED THAT THERE IS A GOD? but we believe he is there!

[Ngo]

SCIENCE IS A FACTOR. LOL. How can u say its not when most of the things we are using today is based off science? Heres the thing, how do we no theres god? Someone who claims to be a prophet tells u theres a false idol and u believe in it? They say u can forget your sins if u pray to the god, meaning that u have created a false idol that you now need, you are bound by it. Im not critizing ppl with religoun, but im saying science is a factor. Oh and btw some ppl are better at art and such because of genes, dna etc.

[rattsexy]

need to study

[foxfire60]

Ngo, I thought you said you werent coming back to this "bull ****"? and also YO GAIZ I CAN DO IT 4 NUMBERZ 1 - 100,000,000,000,000.

BUT I CANT DO IT OVAR THE INTERWEBZ SO SRY ^_____________^

I HAVE BEEN DOING DIS FOr 40 YEARZ!!111

I don't believe in mindreading, it's all BS.


That was quit uncalled for.
We don't need somments like this, I DO appreciate it if you give reason behind it, but a simple "i dunt beleeves n mind readin" Just isn't what we need in this thread.

[amh73]

institute of noetic sciences ,stanford university theres 2 .do your homework

The first study you mentioned is bogus. I would like to see a link to something from Stanford. I guarantee you than the credentials of any such scientist that backs this are horrible.

[mindfreak91]

bottom line rv is real and is a phenomenon that occurs at a level way beyond chance .do your own homework theres alot of others doin similar research with the same results

[amh73]

bottom line rv is real and is a phenomenon that occurs at a level way beyond chance .do your own homework theres alot of others doin similar research with the same results

There are lots of crazies claiming to have proven it. There are absolutely no reputable scientists backing this. None. Not a one. Just because there are thousands of whackos claiming to have proven it does not make it real. Think about it Bigfoot, the Lochness Monster, etc. If this was proven it would be all over the major news media.

[amh73]

HAS SCIENCE EVER PROVED THAT THERE IS A GOD? but we believe he is there!

I believe that science absolutely proves God's existence, but that is off this topic. THat would make a great off topic for another thread though.

[Ngo]

i said i wasnt going to reply to urs lolz, ok for realz this time im outta here.

[arrong]

i tried this on 7 people so far i got it right the frist time but a couple times it took two times because the connection was bad i guess then i did 1-100 four time and i was right 2 times and one number off on the other 2 times. this does work thanks for the info.

[mindfreak91]

im sorry but there are skeptical people who also research it with the same results it occurs more then it should by chance alone .its not a science but theres somthing to it and it needs futher investigation .

[onyxthedog]

this is what i think (not that it matters):
i believe in god but science has NEVER been able to prove that there is a god! yet i still believe in him, furthermore, being that i do believe in god, i have to believe that this is possible simp;y because, god is all knowing all powerful and allmighty and through him ANYTHING is possible. it is not inconceivable to think that if he can create the heavens and the earth and all things known to exist that he couldn't do something like give some the ability to connect in a way that others can not. just like some have the ability to excel at sports, others have the ability to draw or paint others have the ability to write software...etc. my point is this, just because you can't see it or you can't do it does not mean that it does not exist, it just means that someone might have something that you don't. and again science should not even be a factor, like i said, HAS SCIENCE EVER PROVED THAT THERE IS A GOD? but we believe he is there!
God, we can see through natural reason, such as we know we had to and everything around us had to be created by some self-existing being. (no offense to anyone who does not believe in God) But we have no proof like that about psychic conection or anything like that.

[arrong]

SCIENCE IS A FACTOR. LOL. How can u say its not when most of the things we are using today is based off science? Heres the thing, how do we no theres god? Someone who claims to be a prophet tells u theres a false idol and u believe in it? They say u can forget your sins if u pray to the god, meaning that u have created a false idol that you now need, you are bound by it. Im not critizing ppl with religoun, but im saying science is a factor. Oh and btw some ppl are better at art and such because of genes, dna etc.Well why cant science tell us everything there is to know, such as do we have souls, spirits and what is death like when we are no longer breating?
Just answer that simple question if science is all we need in this life and beyond!

[arrong]

For the sake of debating, let us assume that this is real, and our minds are connected by an unknown force. Yet how is it possible that this has not been discovered? Is this the state of being psychic as in the sixth sense? I can ask about thousands if not millions of educated questions, yet will you be able to answer them? Please note that I am only trying to find out how you remain truthful to your "theory".Well put it this way can god make a stone that can not be broken not even by god It's self. Well if god could make that stone,and if It cant break the stone. Is god still the omighty one that can make anything possible? Does this mean everyone in the world should not believe in god? The world has no proof of god just a simple minded book.Does this mean every one in the world should not believe? i mean come on everyone has to believe in something even if its not real.If you dont believe move on,dont question something you dont beleive in, and mess with others way of life just to make your self feel good. By the way what is your educated question? The question you asked was not very educated
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[onyxthedog]

God, we can see through natural reason, such as we know we had to and everything around us had to be created by some self-existing being. (no offense to anyone who does not believe in God) But we have no proof like that about psychic conection or anything like that.

I was not saying that it is impossible just highly unlikely

[nine of kings]

This has been debated for centuries. It won't end here. Believe me.

[onyxthedog]

agreed.!!!

[SenseiMan]

Well why cant science tell us everything there is to know, such as do we have souls, spirits and what is death like when we are no longer breating?
Just answer that simple question if science is all we need in this life and beyond!

Answer this, how does somebodies brain stop his at a specific number? Or, how do you connect with another persons brain, mentally?

Yeah go on, answer.

[Bill Fedrin]

This thread has reached EPIC FAIL proportions. Destruction of the interwebs imminant.

[arrong]

Answer this, how does somebodies brain stop his at a specific number? Or, how do you connect with another persons brain, mentally?

Yeah go on, answer.first it takes energy there is many different types of enrgy just ask science. The human body has many different types of energy just ask science, and mentalism is one energy that comes from you brain.

[deception]

i think your fallen victom to non-contct reading self deception.

[mindfreak91]

wow dude old thread and i thought i covered this already? ive said this b4 there is infact a suprising amount of scientific evidence for psi phenomena do your homework with tests like the ganzfield and autoganzfield being replicated many times by multiple universitys harvard,duke,mcgill,stanford theres more we at the least have shown these phenomena do occur and we all have these capabilities to some degree now the real question is how does this work?i have experimented with this for myself (reomote viewing 2nd link) check out my vid documentation read the info for the vids to see my approach to this stuff remember im a debunker aswell and also see dean radins work http://youtube.com/watch?v=R0CB54zQ7hw [/url] http://youtube.com/watch?v=MIwovUmq1VY http://youtube.com/watch?v=9zFRpE5UZtw ttp://youtube.com/watch?v=xa4-e41jeEY http://youtube.com/watch?v=i8QPU7ODyQ4 http://youtube.com/watch?v=BGiBfyW1ah4

[mindfreak91]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=i8QPU7ODyQ4

[deception]

can give me direct proof then i'll confur but maybe you shouldn' t contribute to the arrogance of mans quest for the irrationala

[gigacurd]

lmao "here we go again" Last summer u posted the same crap dude.

[mortician]

I can do it too but its no fun

[gt3k12]

All right so now instead of youtube noobs we have people running around talking about the theory of entanglement.
A for effort man.
But this is a magic forum, not a quantum physics one