Pls Help Me! Raven Or Pk Ring?

[AlexTheMagician]

What Is Better And Why?????

[Joey]

How about the Bat....Im about to get it

[brandyn]

you can make the raven

[nick]

i would get the bat but its not on penguin anymore

[Mindfreak369]

ya dude get he PK ring. the raven is easy to make

[Joey]

ya...the Bat sells on penguin for about 18$

[AceofD]

Ok let me see if I can break this down for you.

If you use, the bat, or Ravin, you are going to get the coin to disaper but its gone and you realy can not bring it back easy. So for trick where you want the coin to just go south so you can do another part of the trick that is what you should get.

If you want a util gimmick then get the ring, it is there for you to pick things up quickly but you have to make it go south some other way. I say the ring because you can do alot more control magic with it. Example is using it to do the bottle cap in the bottle trick. With the ring you can do that trick with the pully systems you can not.

Also buy your ring on e-bay its the same thing for alot less, dont buy it from the big time online magic shops!!! Trust me its the same thing. I have like three rings, one I got on e-bay for 17.00 and it is just as good as the one I spent 30.00 on.

Ravin like they said you can make.

[hector357]

buy both of them!!! if you can tell me where i can get more ideas for tricks for the pk ring, then please tell me!!! the pk ring dvd looks nice, and i would be happy to recieve it from here. the rave is good too, but it is better to get some sort of instruction like the dvd from e. i would like to have both of those dvds, thanks!!

[stephenku]

pk ring..cause no1 will ever notice it is a magnet also u should get the PK ring DVD volume 1-4 at penguin

[The Kid]

pk more sleek